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  • ID: I08698
  • Name: Edmund le BOTILLER , 6th Butler, Earl Carrick 1 2 3 4
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: Edmund /Butler/, "Earl of Carrick"
  • Birth: ABT 1271 in Knocktopher Castle, Arklow, Wicklow, Ireland
  • Death: 13 SEP 1321 in London, Middlesex, England 5
  • Burial: 9 NOV 1321 Gowran, Kilkenny, Ireland
  • Note:
    Edmund Butler le Botiller; granted 1 Sep 1315 a fief consisting of the castle and manors of Karryk Macgriffyn and Roscrea, whereby he has been by some sources referred to as Earl of Carrick, though the weight of evidence militates against this. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Edmund Butler, d. London, 13 Sep 1321, son of Theobald le Boteler and Joan Fitz John, daughter of Sir John Fitz Geoffrey and Isabel Bigod. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    Edmund Butler, a feudal lord in Ireland (1290-1321) received, 1 Sep 1315, the feodum of the castle and manors of Karryk Macgriffyn and Roscrea, to him and his heirs, sub nomine et honore Comitis de Karryk. This appears, however, to have failed in creating him EARL OF CARRICK, and he is seldom so described (d). He d. 13 Sep 1321, and on 2 Nov 1328 his son and heir (as "James le Botiller") was creatied Earl of Ormond. [Complete Peerage III:60]

    (d) See, however, Patent Roll, 23 Nov 1316, "Mandate to Edmund le Botiller, Earl of Carryk, to deliver Roger de Mortimer the Rolls belonging to the office of Justicary of Ireland, which he lately held"; also Patent Rolls, 4 Nov 1317, where he is called "Earl of Carrick in Ireland." In later references to him the style is omitted.

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    BUTLER FAMILY HISTORY

    The 5th Butler [Theobald] stood fifth on the Roll of the Irish Parliament of 1295 without any territorial designation, which indicates that the Chief Butlerage of Ireland carried with it the status of a baron at least. He then accompanied Edward I to Scotland when the Coronation Stone was purloined and in 1299, at the age of 30, died unmarried.

    He was succeeded by his brother, Edmund, aged about 26, as 6th Butler. Edmund is an enigma. Like many of his family, he was governor of Ireland. But it was with some reluctance that he accepted the post. Perhaps he had no desire for high office, especially under such an inept monarch as Edward II. Whether his governorship was a success is open to question. It was bedevilled by the Scottish invasion of Ireland under the Bruce brothers and very likely Edmund was no match for them as a general. Yet, he was said to have bestowed peace on the land so effectually that he was able to travel from his barony at Arklow to Limerick, guarded by no more than three horsemen, and his services were recognised and rewarded. In 1315, Edward II granted him the castle and manor of Karryk MacGriffyn and Roscrea to be held by him and his heirs, under the name and honour of Earl of Karryk. Whether there was an accompanying charter actually creating him Earl of Carrick is not now known. He was so styled in a mandate witnessed by Edward II himself at York in 1316, and also, although sporadically, in the Close, Patent and Fine Rolls. But it was an ephemeral earldom and no one knows why. Historians have argued endlessly about it. The explanation could be that in the circumstances the title was of no real consequence. Edmund was already hereditary Chief Butler of Ireland and, as such, had a high place in Parliament. So "Earl of Karryk" may not have meant a great deal to him. Unlike his father-in-law, who bleated that he had the title but not the fleece of Earl of Kildare, Edmund had the fleece but no need for the title of Earl of Carrick. On the other hand, allegations of treachery which were later made against him, though false, may have swayed the wayward king against Edmund.

    At all events, with his fair name cleared, he turned to more lasting things in the evening of his life, and in March, 1321, set forth with his devoted younger brother, Thomas, 1st Lord Dunboyne, for Spain, on a pilgrimage to the shrine of St James of Compostela. Spiritually so fortified, Edmund died on his return to London in September; and to this day the Dunboynes bear three escallop shells on their shield to commemorate that pilgrimage. It was performed more than 150 years before Pope Sixtus IV placed pilgrimages to the shrine of St James on official equality with those to Rome and Jerusalem. [Butler Family History]




    Father: Theobald le BOTILLER , 4th Butler b: ABT 1242 in Arklow, Wicklow, Ireland
    Mother: Joan FITZJOHN b: ABT 1250 in Shere, Guildford, Surrey, England

    Marriage 1 Joan FITZGERALD b: ABT 1287 in Offaly, Offaly, Ireland
    • Married: 1302 5
    Children
    1. Has Children James BUTLER , 1st Earl of Ormond b: ABT 1305 in Knocktopher Castle, Arklow, Wicklow, Ireland

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 7-30
      Text: father of James
    2. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 509, 1679
    3. Title: Butler Family History, 7th Edition 1991, by Lord Dunboyne, Kilkenny Castle Book Shop
      Page: 9-10
    4. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 24-6
    5. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 73-31
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