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  • ID: I08180
  • Name: Juliane DORSNELL 1 2
  • Sex: F
  • ALIA: Juliana /Doisnel/
  • Birth: ABT 1143
  • Death: 1199 in Compton Monceux, Kings Somborne, Hampshire, England 2
  • Death: BEF 1200 1
  • Note:
    The manor of SHERFIELD UPON LODDON is not mentioned under that name in the Domesday Survey, as it formed at that time part of the royal manor of Odiham. It remained in the Crown till the reign of Henry II, by whom it was granted, before 1167-8, to his marshal William Fitz Aldelin on his marriage with Juliane daughter of Robert Dorsnell. William held the manor by the serjeanty of being the king's marshal. The manor was said to be held in 1317 in free socage for suit at Odiham Hundred, and in 1332 for the service of carrying the marshal's wand in the king's house. In 1375 the service is given as the serjeanty of being marshal de meretricibus and dismembering malefactors condemned, and measuring the gallons and bushels in the king's household. This service continued till 1603-4, when it is mentioned for the last time.

    Juliane apparently survived William Fitz Aldelin, and died at the end of the 12th century, leaving coheirs Ingram Monceux and William de Warberton or Warblington. On the actual partition of the possessions of Juliane in 1205 Compton passed to Waleran Monceux the heir of Ingram, and Sherfield to William de Warblington, who had apparently come of age in 1204 (vide King's Somborne). William died in 1226, and was succeeded at Sherfield by Thomas de Warblington, who was possibly his son. Thomas died towards the end of the reign of Henry III, and the custody of the manor was granted about 1274 to John de Wintershill.

    From: 'Parishes: Sherfield-upon-Loddon', A History of the County of Hampshire: Volume 4 (1911), pp. 103-108. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56759&strquery=aldelin Date accessed: 16 June 2012.

    NOTE: It is strange to state that Sherfield went to an heir of Juliane (the manor was granted to her husband William FitzAldelin). It had to have been through the marriage of a daughter of William & Juliane's to the father of William de Warberton/Warblington. Similarly for Compton going to Ingram Monceux. This is suggested (William & Ingram being Juliane's grandsons) by VCH Hampshire in its treatis of Compton Monceux.




    Father: Robert DORSNELL b: ABT 1115

    Marriage 1 William FITZALDELIN , Lord of Connaught b: ABT 1140 in Burgh-by-Sands, Carlisle, Cumberland, England
    • Married: BEF 1167
    Children
    1. Has Children Miss FITZALDELIN , Heiress of Compton b: ABT 1161 in Compton Monceux, Kings Somborne, Hampshire, England
    2. Has Children Miss FITZALDELIN , Heiress of Sherfield b: ABT 1165 in Sherfield on Loddon, Basingstroke, Hampshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: VCH of Hampshire, 1908, William Page, www.british-history.ac.uk
      Page: IV:103-8
    2. Title: VCH of Hampshire, 1908, William Page, www.british-history.ac.uk
      Page: IV:469-80, see notes for Waleran Monceux, d. <1217
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