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  • ID: I07728
  • Name: Robert de THWENG , Lord of Kilton, Sir 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: William /Wither/
  • Birth: ABT 1214 in Thwing, Bridlington, Yorkshire East Riding, England
  • Death: AFT 1256 in Kilton Castle, Cleveland, Yorkshire, England 3
  • Burial: Thwing Church, Yorkshire East Riding, England
  • Note:
    ROBERT DE THWENG, son and heir, was leader in 1231, under the name William Wither, of the attacks on the alien clergy who were appointed to livings by the Pope. Negotiations with the papacy continued long after the unrest had ended, and in 1239 Robert took to Rome a letter of protest from the lay patrons. Nothing is known of his activities in Rome, but the mission was successful; for in the same year Pope Gregory IX wrote to Richard, Earl of Cornwall, recognising the rights of English lay patrons. Robert accompanied the Earl on crusade in 1240, and in September 1240 he went, as Richard's envoy, from Marseilles to the Emperor Frederick II, bearing information about the quarrel between the Earl and the papal legates, who were trying to stop the crusade. Robert returned to England in 1242, possibly with Richard of Cornwall, and in 1245 his lands were seized by the Crown, because in the royal hall of Windsor he attacked Richard de Sarr', a clerk of the Archbishop of York. During 1246 he was an attorney in pleadings and he witnessed charters; and he is last mentioned in a final concord dated 17 June I246.

    He married, before January 1228/9, Maud, widow of Richard DE AUTREY, possibly daughter of Roger DE KILTON, niece and heir of William DE KILTON. She brought to the Thwengs the manor and castle of Kilton, together with lands in Kilton Thorpe, North Riding, and Kirkleatham, East Riding, held of the Percies (a). The dates of the deaths of Robert and Maud are not known (b). [Complete Peerage XII/1:737-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (a) The Thwengs now moved from the East Riding to Kilton Castle, in the Cleveland district of North Riding.

    (b) L'Anson says that he d. in 1247 at Thwing, where he was buried in the church, but no authority is cited. A Robert de Thweng is mentioned in 1253/4 and 1256.

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    A knight - Sir Robert de Thweng

    1232-Took the name Will Wither while harrying the clergy who were farming the benefices granted to them by the Pope.
    1239-Duputized by the Barons to go to Rome and plead their case to the Pope
    1240-Accompanied Richard, Earl of Caronwall and brother of King Henry III, on Crusade
    1240-Envoy of Richard, Earl of Cornwall to Emporer Frederick II

    Inherited Kilton Castle through his wife who as the heiress of William de Kilton. Held Thweng, Lund




    Father: Maramaduke de THWENG , Sir b: BEF 1178 in Legsby, Caistor, Lincolnshire, England

    Marriage 1 Maud Heiress of KILTON b: ABT 1215 in Kilton Castle, Cleveland, Yorkshire, England
    • Married: BEF JAN 1228/29 in 2nd husband 1st wife 2
    Children
    1. Has Children Marmaduke de THWENG , Lord of Kilton, MP, Sir b: ABT 1234 in Kilton Castle, Cleveland, Yorkshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: David Hepworth, 3 Oct 2004
      Text: Brother of Cecily
    2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XII/1:737-8
    3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: David Hepworth, 3 Oct 2004
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