The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I07468
  • Name: Eve (Eva) PECCHE 1 2 3
  • Sex: F
  • ALIA: Eve (Eva) /Criketot/
  • Birth: ABT 1250 in Corby, Bourne, Lincolnshire, England
  • Death: 1292 4
  • Note:
    Eve (f), widow of Nicholas TREGOZ (died shortly before 2 June 1279), of Tolleshunt D'Arcy, Essex. [Complete Peerage XII/2:150, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (f) She is commonly described as Eva Criketot, presumably of the family of Criketot of Ousden, Suffolk.

    Note: A number of people on SGM have expressed doubts as to Eva being a Criketot based on chronology.

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    In the following post to SGM, 20 Feb 2004, Douglas Richardson suggests that Eve was a Pecche (although certainly not proven I will at least temporarily adopt the suggested ancestry):

    From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry AT msn.com)
    Subject: Possible identity of Eve wife of Nicholas Tregoz and Robert de Valoines
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2004-02-20 17:51:02 PST

    Dear Jay ~

    If I had to venture a guess, I would think a good bet is that Eve, wife of Nicholas Tregoz and Robert de Valoines, was probably the daughter of Gilbert Pecche (died 1291) by his 1st wife, Maud de Hastings, which Maud was a possible daughter of Henry de Hastings, by Ada of Huntingdon. If so, the Hastings-Huntingdon connection would explain the later intermarriage between the Valoines and Comyn families. The Comyn family was Scottish, as was Ada de Huntingdon's family.

    I read someplace that Gilbert Pecche (died 1291) was styled "king's kinsman," which statement is probably true. Unfortunately, I haven't found the specific citation to verify this allegation. Gilbert's mother, also named Eve, was a foreigner. My guess is that Eve was a near kinswoman of King Henry III of England. If correct, then it would explain why Gilbert Pecche was called "king's kinsman" and why Eve (_____) (Tregoz) de Valoines was called "king's cousin." These suggested kinships should be labelled mere speculation until further records can be consulted.

    I've always assumed that Eve, mother of Gilbert Pecche, was French. However, I suppose it's possible that she could be Scottish. Andrew MacEwen, the great Scottish scholar, has proven that Fergus of Galloway was the paternal grandfather of Eve Fitz Uchtred, wife of Walter de Berkeley, of Red Castle, co. Forfar, Chamberlain of Scotland. The Galloway family are known kinsfolk of the English royal family.

    For interest's sake, I might point out that Gary Boyd Roberts' new RD 600 book, shows that Gilbert Pecche (died 1291) is ancestral to three colonial immigrants, Jane (Lawrence) Giddings, Judith (Everard) Appleton, and Margaret (Halsnode) Denne. If Gilbert Pecche is the father of Eve (_____) (Tregoz) de Valoines, he would further be ancestral to many more colonial immigrants.

    This matter requires further study.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    E-mail: royalancestry AT msn.com




    Father: Gilbert PECCHE , of Corby & Westcliff, Sir b: BEF 11 DEC 1220 in Corby, Bourne, Lincolnshire, England
    Mother: Maud de HASTINGS b: ABT 1224 in Ashill, Swaffham, Norfolk, England

    Marriage 1 Nicholas de TREGOZ , of Tolleshunt D'Arcy b: ABT 1238 in Billingford, Norfolk, England
    • Married: in 1st husband 5

    Marriage 2 Robert de VALOINES , Lord of Walsham b: ABT 1240 in Orford, Plomesgate, Suffolk, England
    • Married: AFT 1279 in 2nd husband 6
    Children
    1. Has Children Cecily de VALOINES b: 1281 in Ixworth & Walsham, Suffolk, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XII/2:150 (f)
    2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Dave Utzinger (UTZ), 26 Apr 1998
    3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 20 Feb 2004
    4. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Rosie Bevan, 14 May 2004
    5. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XII/2:150
    6. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XII/2:150
      Text: date implied by death of 1st husb.
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