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  • ID: I06489
  • Name: Payne de ROET , Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1315 in Guignies, Hainault, Belgium
  • Death: 1380 in Ghent, Hainault, Belgium
  • Note:
    A knight in Queen Philippa's (Edward III's wife) Household.

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    The following is a post to SGM, 4 Jan 2004, by Peter de Loriol:

    From: PDeloriol AT aol.com (PDeloriol AT aol.com)
    Subject: DE ROE(L)T...
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2004-01-04 09:57:45 PST

    Someone asked about the ancestry of sir Paon/Pagan/Payen de Ruet/Roet/Roelt.

    A recent article in the Foundations Magazine of the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy suggests that this unknown Knight was a member of the ROEULX family of the Hainaut where the name is also spelt as Ruet/Roet/ Ruelt - it points to a certain Gilles de Roeulx as the Pagan of English history...there is however no definite proof of his identity but the circumstantial proof seems quite compelling according to the reviewer.

    regards

    Peter de Loriol

    Note: I already have Payne as son of another Payne Roet, based on various people on the internet. I find a Gilles-Rigaud de Roeulx on Leo van de Pas' data files based on information in ES. Since the senior male line of Gille's elder brother Eustace appears to die out with Eustace in 1288 (Eustace had a son Eustace who died before him about Dec 1287, and a daughter Marie who was his heir), I think the Roet descent indicated in the SGM post above is probably through Gilles-Rigaud. Therefore I am making Payne Roet, senior, a son of that Gilles-Rigaud (at least it is pretty close to the ancestry indicated above).




    Father: Payne de ROET , of Guignies b: BEF 1274 in Guignies, Hainault, Belgium

    Marriage 1 Catherine d' AVESNES , of Hainault b: 1320 in Hainault, Belgium
      Children
      1. Has Children Phillipa de ROET b: ABT 1348 in Somme, Picardy, France
      2. Has Children Catherine de ROET b: 25 NOV 1350 in Somme, Picardy, France

      Sources:
      1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
        Page: 1-31
        Text: Sir Paon Roet, a Gascon
      2. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
        Page: 161-17
        Text: Sir Payn Roet of Hainault, Guienne King of Arms
      3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: Peter de Loriol, 4 Jan 2004
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