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  • ID: I06078
  • Name: Robert de CONDET , Lord of Thorngate 1
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: Robert de /Cundy/, of Thorngate Castle
  • Birth: ABT 1100 in Skellingthorpe, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
  • Death: ABT 10 OCT 1141 in Thorngate Castle, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England 2 3
  • Note:
    Robert de Condet (or Cundy), d. c 1141, lord of Thorngate Castle in the city of Lincoln, and of Wickhambreux, Kent, Grimston, co. Notthingham, and South Carlton, Thurlby, Eagle and Skellingthorpe, co. Lincoln, son of Osbert de Condet (or Cundy), d. by 1130, lord of Wickhambreux, Kent, Grimston, co. Nottingham, and South Carlton, Eagle and Skellingthorpe, co. Lincoln, by Adelaide, daughter and heir of William de Chesney, lord of Caenby and Glentham, co. Lincoln. [Ancestral Roots, Line 132d-27]

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    The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 5 Feb 2004, by Rosie Bevan, concerning Keats-Rohan's entry for Robert:

    From: rosie bevan (rbevan AT paradise.net.nz)
    Subject: Re: Ancestry of Agnes de Condet/Cundy, wife of Walter de Clifford
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2004-02-05 00:17:33 PST

    Dear Jim

    The following entries are from Domesday Descendants p.425

    de Cundet, Robert
    In 1130 Robert de Condé accounted in Kent and in Sussex for an agreement with the bishop of Lincoln, and in Lincolnshire for the land of his father. His parentage is unknown, though it is usually suggested that he was a descendant of Emma Crispin (aunt of Robert I Malet) and Peter de Condé. He married Alice or Adelicia, probably the daughter of Ranulf I of Chester and in 1136 widow of Gilbert fitz Richard de Clare (major, Linq. Reg. Antiq. i, pp. 282ff0. At his death on a 10 October sometime between 1139 and 1145 his minor son Roger was his heir. Probably father also of a son Robert (q.v.). His fee was a composite granted some time after 1086, consisting of land in Wickhambreux, Kent, South Carlton, Grimston, Thurlby and Eagle and Skellingthorpe, Lincolnshire.
    [Pipe Roll 31 Henry I, 67-kn, 111-1n]



    Cheers

    Rosie

    NOTE: I have Peter (Pierre) de Conde and Emma Crispin as great grandparents of Robert.




    Father: Osbert de CONDET , Lord of Wickhambreux b: ABT 1078 in Wickhambreux, Bridge, Kent, England
    Mother: Adelaide de CHESNEY , Heir of Glentham & Caenby b: ABT 1083 in Caenby, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

    Marriage 1 Adeliz (Alice) le MESCHIN b: ABT 1098 in Chester, Cheshire, England
    • Married: AFT 1136 in 2nd husband 4
    Children
    1. Has Children Roger de CONDET , of Caenby & Glentham b: ABT 1138 in Eagle, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
    2. Has Children Isabel de CONDET , Heir of South Carlton b: ABT 1140 in Skellingthorpe, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 132d-27
    2. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 132d-27
      Text: c1141
    3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Rosie Bevan, 5 Feb 2004
      Text: 10 October, 1139/45, later states c1141
    4. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 132d-27
      Text: date implied by death of 1st husband
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