The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I05725
  • Name: Juliane de DOURTON 1 2 3 4
  • Sex: F
  • ALIA: Juliana /Brett/
  • Birth: ABT 1200 in Dorton, Thame, Buckinghamshire, England 5
  • Note:
    Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann AT yahoo.com, pointed out Douglas Richardson's post to SGM.

    Research note: "Juliane, wife of Robert III de Beauchamp, of Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset, wasn't a Brett at all. Rather, my research indicates she was the daughter and co-heiress of Pain de Dourton, of Dourton, co. Buckingham. This discovery will be covered by the forthcoming book, Baronial Ancestry, due out in about a year". [Ref: Douglas Richardson 2 Feb 2002]

    The last I heard, his book *may* be out in Dec. 2003. Until we see what proof he offers, caveat emptor.

    Regards,
    Curt

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    Note: Paul Reed, in a prior post to SGM, stated that Juliane's mother was the widow Alice de Colville. I am leaving her as the mother, at least until Douglas Richardson's book comes out, to see whether the mother still applies.




    Father: Pain de DOURTON b: ABT 1165 in Dorton, Thame, Buckinghamshire, England
    Mother: Alice widow of Mr. COLVILLE b: ABT 1170 in England

    Marriage 1 Robert IV de BEAUCHAMP , Lord of Hache b: ABT 1190 in Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England
      Children
      1. Has Children Robert V de BEAUCHAMP , Lord of Hache b: BEF 1223 in Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England

      Sources:
      1. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
        Page: 153a-6
        Text: probably Juliana
      2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: Paul C. Reed (reedpcgen), 21 Jan 1999
        Text: Juliana, dau. of the widow Alice de Colville.
      3. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
        Page: 246b-29
        Text: Juliana (Brett?)
      4. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: Douglas Richardson, 2 Feb 2002
        Text: Juliane, dau. & co-heiress of Pain de Dourton
      5. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: Louise Staley, 2 Feb 2004
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