The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I04818
  • Name: Philip de ORREBY , Justiciar of Chester, Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1160 in Alvanley, Runcorn, Cheshire, England 2 3
  • Death: ABT 1230 2 3
  • Note:
    Sir Philip de Orreby, Knt., b. c 1160, d. c 1230, Justiciar of Chester 1208-1229, Constable to Gilbert de Gant, Earl of Lincoln. [Ancestral Roots]

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    SIR PHILIP DE ORREBY (presumably son of Herbert son of Alard, otherwise Herbert de Orreby (b)), born probably circa 1160 (c), appears to have entered the service of the Earls of Chester at an early age, and to have been in constant attendance upon Earl Ranulph after his succession as Earl. He was justiciar of Chester in 1207, or earlier, till his resignation of the office in 1229. He married, 1stly, Emma, daughter of Margery DE COVENTRE, whom the Earl, as her guardian, gave him in marriage. He married, 2ndly, Alice DE BAUMVILLE. He died circa 1230, dower being allowed to his widow Alice by her son Fulk de Orreby. [Complete Peerage X:168-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (b) Herbert de Orreby, son of Alard, was Constable to Gilbert de Gant, Earl of Lincoln, and to his son-in-law, Simon de St. Liz, Earl of Northampton, after Simon's marriage to the Countess Alice, daughter and heir of Earl Gilbert; and it was presumably by the service of constable that he held Orby (in which place he granted land to the monks of Bardney), of the two Earls successively, as did his son John, after him, of Gilbert de Gant II.

    (c) Proof has not been found that Philip was one of the younger sons--probably the 2nd--of Herbert, son of Alard, by Agnes his wife, daughter of Simon FitzWilliam (of Kyme), named probably after her brother Philip de Kyme, but there is a strong presumption that it was the fact.




    Father: Herbert I de ORREBY , Sir b: ABT 1140 in Orby, Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England
    Mother: Agnes de KYME b: ABT 1142 in Sotby, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England

    Marriage 1 Emma de COVENTRE b: ABT 1165 in Coventry, Warwickshire, England
    • Married: in 1st wife 3
    Children
    1. Has Children Philip de ORREBY , of Alvanley & Elford b: ABT 1190 in Alvanley, Runcorn, Cheshire, England

    Marriage 2 Alice de BAUMVILLE b: ABT 1185 in England
    • Married: BEF 1230 in 2nd wife 4
    Children
    1. Has Children Fulk de ORREBY , Sir b: BEF 1230 in Hatherton, Nantwich, Cheshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 129-3
    2. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 150-28
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: X:168-169
    4. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: X:168-169
      Text: no date given, 2nd wife
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