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  • ID: I03958
  • Name: Milicent de Stanton de RETHEL 1 2 3 4
  • Sex: F
  • ALIA: Millicent de /Stanton/
  • Birth: ABT 1115 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France
  • Death: AFT 1152 in Stanton (Harcourt), Oxfordshire, England
  • Note:
    1st Cousin (-1) of Adeliza of Louvain-wife of Henry I. [Curt Hofemann points out that they are full 2nd cousins. I didn't make the computation, but copied it from someone else who was as bad as I am at computing cousin relationships.)

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    Early in the 12th Century, Stanton was given by Henry I to his second wife, Queen Adeliza (or Adela). A large part of it she presented to a kinswomen, Millicent de Camville. From the latter it was inherited in 1191 by Isabel de Camville, and thus passed to her husband Richard de Harcourt, from whom it has come down through the Harcourt family to the present day and from which circumstance the Manor and the village itself became known as Stanton Harcourt. Queen Adeliza also gave land at Stanton to Reading Abbey, which remained patron of the parish church fill the Dissolution of the Monasteries. A close relationship with St Michaelís Church has been maintained by the Harcourts, and it contains the chapel under which members of the family have been buried since the 15th century.

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    He [Robert Marmion] married Milicent, daughter of Hugh, Count of Rethel. He died in 1143 or 1144, being slain in warfare with the Earl of Chester. His widow married Richard DE CANVILLE or CAMVILLE. [Complete Peerage VIII:505-8, XIV:467]

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    Milicent of Rethel, daughter of Elizabeth (or Isabell) of Namur & Gervais Count of Rethel, m. (1) Robert Marmion, b. probably 1090-1095 in Normandy, killed 1143 or 1144 at Coventry, son of Roger; first appears in the Lindsey Survey of Lincolnshire 1115-1118; m. (2) Richard de Camville. [Ancestral Roots line 246a-25]

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    Robert I Marmion m. circa 1130/1133 Milicent, dau. of Gervase, Count of Rethel & Elizabeth de Namur. Milicent m. secondly Richard de Camville. Robert evicted the monks of Coventry and profaned their church. [Alan B. Wilson, SGM 14 Apr 1997]

    NOTE: This confirms AR's ancestry for Milicent as compared with CP VIII above.




    Father: Gervase Comte de RETHEL , Archdeacon of Reims b: ABT 1090 in Rethel, Ardennes, Champagne-Ardenne, France
    Mother: Elizabeth de NAMUR b: ABT 1092 in Namur, Belgium

    Marriage 1 Robert MARMION , of Scrivelsby & Tamworth b: ABT 1109 in Scrivelsby, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
    • Married: AFT 1130 in 1st husband 5 6 7
    Children
    1. Has Children Robert MARMION , of Scrivelsby & Tamworth b: BEF 1133 in Scrivelsby, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England

    Marriage 2 Richard de CAMVILLE , of Lilbourne & Stanton b: ABT 1116 in Lilbourne Castle, Creek, Northamptonshire, England
    • Married: AFT 1143 in 2nd husband 8
    Children
    1. Has Children Gerald de CAMVILLE , of Lilbourne b: ABT 1140 in Lilbourne Castle, Creek, Northamptonshire, England
    2. Has Children William de CAMVILLE , of Clifton b: ABT 1145 in Lilbourne Castle, Northamptonshire, England
    3. Has Children Walter de CAMVILLE , Sir b: ABT 1148 in Lilbourne Castle, Creek, Northamptonshire, England
    4. Has Children Isabel de CAMVILLE , Heiress of Stanton b: ABT 1152 in Stanton (Harcourt), Oxfordshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 246a-25
    2. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 117
      Text: Milicent (no last name)
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VIII:505-8, XIV:467
      Text: Milicent, daughter of Hugh de Rethel (I think in error)
    4. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Alan B. Wilson, 14 Apr 1997
    5. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 246a-25
      Text: no date
    6. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VIII:505-8
      Text: no date
    7. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Alan B. Wilson, 14 Apr 1997
      Text: 1130/3
    8. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 246a-25
      Text: after 1st husband's death.
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