The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I03315
  • Name: Hugh 1st Baron le DESPENSER , Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1223 in Loughborough, Leicestershire, England 4
  • Death: 4 AUG 1265 in Battle of Evesham, Worcestershire, England 5
  • Note:
    Sir Hugh le Despenser, 1st Lord (Baron) Despenser of the putative 1264 creation; knighted c1244, Constable of Horston Castle 1255, one of twelve representatives by the barons at the Parliament (a convention rather than full Parliament as recognised today) of Oxford June 1258 to press for action by Henry III to right the wrongs done them and negotiate with the King's Council, nominated Justiciar of England by the barons and accordingly appointed to that post by Henry 1260 but dismissed by him 1261, renominated 1263 by the barons and reappointed with Henry's agreement, Constable of the Tower of London 1263 and Devizes, Oxford, Orford, and Nottingham Castles 1264; called to a form of Parliament 24 Dec 1264 by writ whereby according to peerage law doctrine as it stood at the time of the judgement of 1604 he may be reckoned to have been created Lord le Despenser; married Aline or Aliva (married 2nd Roger le Bigod, Earl of Norfolk), daughter of Sir Philip Basset, of Wycombe, Bucks, and was killed at the Battle of Evesham 4 Aug 1265, fighting for Simon de Montfort, Earl of Leicester, against Henry III. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Sir Hugh le Despenser, summoned 14 Dec 1264 Lord Despenser, d. Evesham Aug 1265, & Aline Basset (m. (2) Roger Bigod), daughter of Sir Philip Basset of Wycombe, Bucks, Justiciar, and Hawise, daughter of Sir Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex). [Ancestral Roots, Line 72-31]

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    Anne (said to be daughter of Sir Hugh le Despenser of Ryhall, Rutland, Loughborough, co. Leicester & Parlington, co. York, by Aline, daughter & heir of Sir Philip Basset). [Ancestral Roots]

    Eleanor le Despenser, d. 1 Oct 1328, daughter of Hugh le Despenser, Justiciar of England, d. 1306, and Aline Basset. [Ancestral Roots, Line 50-30] Note: Don't know where the "d. 1306" comes from--see above from AR 72-31, which states Hugh "d. Evesham Aug 1265".

    Note: Ancestral Roots in several lines states that Aline is mother of both Eleanor & Anne Despenser. They quite reasonably avoid giving any birth dates for Eleanor & Anne, because it is impossible to give them birth dates which make sense when they are daughters of Aline, b. 1246. Anne Despenser has a son William de Ferrers, b. 1271/2 (with 26 years between 1246 & 1272, both Aline & Anne gave birth at 13, possible but not likely). Eleanor Despenser has a daughter Eleanor de Courtenay, who gave birth to a Richard de Grey, b. 1281 (with 35 years between 1246 & 1281, Aline gave birth at 12, Eleanor Despenser gave birth at 12 and Eleanor de Courtenay gave birth at 11, all but imposible). I am only using sourced dates in this analysis.

    I am making Anne and Eleanor daughters of a first wife (unknown). Perhaps Aline's birth date is wrong as well.

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    The following post-em by Mike Lysell, mlysell AT comcast.net, tends to add support for the existence of an unknown first wife, but leaves Eleanor's ancestry in doubt (I have her also a daughter by the 1st wife):

    Jim - Carl Boyer in "Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans" also shows an unamed first wife based on information from Vernon Noorís "Some Early English Pedigrees". He lists Ann who married William Ferrers as the only child of this union. He shows Alianor, born about 1257 as the first child by Aline Bassett.

    Boyer shows a birth date of 1245 for Aline but says that in the inquistions taken in Nov. 1271 after the death of her father, she was said to be aged 22 and more, 24 and more 26, or 30 and more. This indicates a birth date of as early as 1241, making her 17 at the time of Ailanorís birth.

    Thought I'd throw that in just to add to the confusion!

    Mike Lysell




    Father: Hugh le DESPENSER , Lord of Loughborough, Sir b: ABT 1190 in Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
    Mother: Miss de QUINCY b: ABT 1190 in Winchester, Hampshire, England

    Marriage 1 Unknown First WIFE b: ABT 1225
    • Married: in 1st wife
    Children
    1. Has Children Anne le DESPENSER b: ABT 1248 in Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
    2. Has Children Eleanor le DESPENSER b: ABT 1251 in Ryhall, Rutland, England

    Marriage 2 Aline BASSET , Countess of Norfolk b: 1246 in Wooten Bassett, Wiltshire, England
    • Married: BEF 1260 in 1st husband 2nd wife 6
    Children
    1. Has Children Hugh Baron le DESPENSER , Earl of Winchester b: 1 MAR 1260/61 in Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
    2. Has Children Joan le DESPENSER b: BEF 1266 in Ryhall, Rutland, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 4-5
    2. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 51-30, 50-30, 72-31
    3. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 1029, 2241
    4. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 148a-31
    5. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 72-31
      Text: 1265
    6. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: IV:261
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