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  • ID: I03251
  • Name: John 2nd Baron de SEGRAVE & Penn, Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1256 in Seagrave, Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire, England 2 3
  • Death: BEF 4 OCT 1325 in Penn, Amersham, Buckinghamshire, England 2 3
  • Burial: Chacombe Priory, Northamptonshire, England
  • Note:
    BARONY OF SEGRAVE (II) 1295

    JOHN (DE SEGRAVE) LORD SEGRAVE, son and heir, born about 1256, in 1285 had served in Wales; he served in Ireland in 1287 and in Scotland in 1291. In 1289, with his brothers Nicholas and Henry, he acknowledged a debt of 200 marks to the King's brother Edmund for the redemption of their lands. On 10 December 1295 he was to have his lands, having done homage. He was summoned to Parliament from 26 August 1296 to 8 May 1325. On 4 May 1297 he was summoned to Ireland with horses and arms. In September 1297 he came to the King at Carlisle and offered the excuses of the Earl Marshal for non-attendance by reason of ill-health. He was summoned constantly to serve against the Scots and was actively employed there from 1297 to 1322. On 30 June 1300 he did homage to the King at Carlisle. On 12 February 1300/1 he appended his seal to the Barons' letter to the Pope as Johannes dominus de Segrave. On 5 August 1302, appointed to custody of Castle of Berwick-upon-Tweed. In November 1302 he was to serve in Scotland with an army, and to have the custody of the land. On 24 February 1302/3, when Keeper of Scotland, he was ambushed when riding near Maids' Castle by the Scots, severely wounded and captured, but rescued. On 18 January 1307/8 he was summoned to attend Edward II's Coronation; 10 May 1308 acquitted of his own and his father's debts to the Exchequer; Keeper of Nottingham Castle; Justice of the forest beyond Trent. On 10 March 1308/9 he was appointed Keeper of Scotland, either side the Forth. On 15 June 1311 he was ordered to abstain from repairing to Norwich to take part in the quarrel between Henry de Segrave and Walter de Bermyngham. He was granted, 4 September 1312, land to the value of 100 li. yearly, or 100 li. to buy land; 1 August 1313, appointed Keeper of the marches of Cumberland. On 24 June 1314 he was taken prisoner at Bannockburn (c). On 9 August 1318 he was appointed member of the Council, to be constantly about the King, pursuant to the treaty with the Earl of Lancaster. In December 1318 and January 1318/9 he was supplying the King's place in Scotland; 18 June 1320, conservator of the peace, co. Warwick. He was ordered to abstain from illegal or treasonable conventions 30 January 1320/1 and 21 April 1321, and from the meeting of the "Good Peers," 12 November 1321. On 30 November 1321 he was a Commissioner to assemble the forces of cos. Warwick, Leicester and Stafford, on 6 February 1321/2 to raise as many men-at-arms and foot soldiers as possible, and on 1 May 1322 to array his men and tenants and to appear in Parliament at York. On 18 May 1322 he was a Commissioner to try townsmen of Cambridge concerned in a riot against the University; and on 31 October 1322 a Commissioner of array for Notts and Derby. On 27 November and 10 December 1322 he was ordered to muster levies and march with them to York, and on 8 January and 21 February 1322/3 to complete levies and march to Chesterfield. In 1323, his son Stephen, Constable of the Tower of London, having allowed Roger de Mortimer of Wigmore to escape, he fell under the King's displeasure, and was ordered to hold himself in readiness to serve in Aquitaine, whither he proceeded with his sons in June 1324. On 21 December 1324, summoned to perform military service in person in Gascony.

    He married Christiane, sister of Hugh, 1st LORD PLESCY, daughter of Hugh DE PLESSIS. He died before 4 October 1325, and was buried at Chaucombe priory. His wife survived him (d), and was living 8 May 1331. [Complete Peerage XI:605-8, XIV:576]]

    (c) On 29 Aug 1315 he was granted L1,000 in aid of his ransom and other losses sustained in the King's service. A payment on account was made 12 Nov 1318. In 1314-5 he is described as a banneret of the King's household.

    (d) On 13 May 1314/5, she was granted, in consideration of the hardships which she suffered in Scotland while her husband was there, scutage for knights' fees held of the inheritance of Hugh de Plessis, which had been granted to her husband until the full age of the heir.

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    John de Segrave, 2nd Lord (Baron) Segrave; born c1256; undertook military service in Wales by 1285, Ireland by 1287 and Scotland by 1291, also 1297-1322; Keeper of Scotland by Feb 1302/3 (and again March 1308/9), when briefly taken prisoner by Scots; Keeper of Nottingham Castle c1308; Keeper of the Marches with Scotland in Cumberland 1313; captured by the Scots at their victory over the English of Bannockburn 1314; married 1269/70 Christian, daughter of Hugh de Plessis, and died by 4 Oct 1325. [Burke's Peerage]

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    John de Segrave, 2nd baron, b. 1256, summoned to parliament from 26 August, 1296, to 6 May, 1325. This nobleman, in the lifetime of his father having been taken prisoner in the wars of Scotland (9th Edward I) [1281], obtained from the king, in consideration of his services there, the grant of 100 towards the liquidation of his ransom. He was subsequently much engaged in the Scottish wars, and in the 24th of the same reign, was constable of the English army in that country. The next year he was by indenture retained to serve Roger le Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, with six knights, himself accounted, as well in time of peace as in war, for the term of his whole life, in England, Wales and Scotland; viz, in the time of peace with six horses, so long as the earl should think fit, taking Bouche of Court for himself and his knights, and for his esquires, hay and oats; as also livery for six more horses and wages for six groom and their horses; likewise for himself two robes yearly, as well in time of peace as war, as for a banneret; and for his five knights, as for his other bachelors, viz., two yearly. Moreover, in time of war, he was bound to bring with him his five knights with twenty horses, and in consideration thereof, to receive for himself and his company, with all those horses, 40s. per day, but if he should bring no more than six horses, then 32s.; it being likewise agreed that the horses should be valued to the end that a fair allowance might be made for any which should be lost in the service. For the performance of this covenant, he had a grant of the manor of Lodene, co. Norfolk.

    In the 26th Edward I [1298], his lordship was again in Scotland and had a principal command at the battle of Falkirk. In three years after, he obtained license to make a castle at his manor house of Bretteby, co. Derby, and he was next constituted governor of Berwick-upon-Tweed, as also warden of Scotland. Subsequently, we find him with King Edward at the celbrated siege of Caerlaverock. After the accession of Edward II [1307], he was again made warden of Scotland and within a short time attending the king into that usual theatre of war, was amongst the worsted in the great defeat sustained by the English arms at Bannockburn, and was made prisoner by the Scots, who detained him for a year until he was exchanged for Thomas de Moram and other prisoners of that realm who were incarcerated in London. His lordship eventually lost his life in Gascony whither he was sent by the king, who had conceived some displeasure against him for the escape of Roger Mortimer out of the Tower of London, under pretence of defending those parts with Edmund, Earl of Kent, and others, where, being a great mortality, he d. anno 1325. His lordship m. in the lifetime of his father, in 1270, Christian, dau. of Sir Hugh de Plessetis, Knt., by whom he had issue, Stephen. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 485, Segrave, Barons Segrave of Barton Segrave]




    Father: Nicholas 1st Baron de SEGRAVE , Sir b: ABT 1238 in Great Dalby, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England
    Mother: Maud de LUCY b: ABT 1238 in Copeland, Whitehaven, Cumberland, England

    Marriage 1 Christian de PLESSIS , Heir of Stottesdon b: ABT 1257 in Stottesden, Bridgnorth, Shropshire, England
    • Married: ABT 1270 4
    Children
    1. Has Children Ellen de SEGRAVE b: ABT 1275 in Seagrave, Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire, England
    2. Has Children Stephen 3rd Baron de SEGRAVE & Penn, Sir b: BEF 1283 in Seagrave, Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire, England
    3. Has Children Christian de SEGRAVE b: ABT 1300 in Seagrave, Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 58-31
    2. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 2025
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XI:605-8
    4. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 2025
      Text: 1269/70
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