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  • ID: I03111
  • Name: William FITZALAN , Lord of Oswestry & Clun, Sir 1 2 3 4
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: BEF 1154 in Oswestry Castle, Shropshire, England 4
  • Death: 1210 in Clun, Shropshire, England 5 3 4
  • Note:
    William FitzAlan, of Clun and Oswestry; dsp 1216. [Burke's Peerage]

    Note: Burke's has William dead without issue. Burke's also has John (whom I have a son of this William) being a son of William (father of this William) who died about 1160. I think that would make John almost 100 years old when he died, therefore I am going with the usually less reliable Plantagenet Ancestry and saying John was son of this William who died 1210, whom I guess Bernard Burke (see citation below) states died about 1172 and had another son William who may have dsp 1216. The Corrections to CP website has the straight story, which agrees with this--see below, where this William is #3:

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    The following is copied from the website, maintained by Chris Phillips, entitled: "Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage" (see full entry under Isabel de Say):

    2. William FitzAlan, their son and heir, who married 1stly Christiana, neptis (niece or kinswoman) of Robert Earl of Gloucester, and 2ndly Isabel, daughter and heir of Elias de Say, lord of Clun [Isabel is described as the daughter of Elias in a 12th-century narrative from the cartulary of Lilleshall Abbey, printed by Dugdale, Monasticon, vol.6, p.262, cited by Eyton, vol.9, p.358]. After William's death in 1160, Isabel remarried, before 1166, to Geoffrey de Vere (d. 1170) and, before 1188, to William Boterel; she died probably in 1199, and was survived by her third husband.

    3. William FitzAlan, the son and heir of William by Isabel, who succeeded as a minor and apparently came of age in 1175. He married a daughter of Hugh de Lacy, Lord of Meath [Rot. Hundredorum, vol.2, pp.69, 76, 80, referring to land given to William FitzAlan with the sister of Walter de Lacy, cited by Eyton, vol.5, p.86, vol.10, p.126] and died in 1210 [Eyton, vol.7, p.244 citing the Annals of Dunstaple Priory; since printed in Annales Monastici, vol.3 (Rolls Series no 36; 1866)].

    4. William FitzAlan, their son and heir, who succeeded as a minor, married Mary, the daughter of Thomas de Erdington, and died without issue, Easter 1215 [Eyton, vol.10, p.326, citing a copy of a letter from Thomas de Erdington to the king, referring to William's death at Easter and dated by Eyton to 1215 on internal evidence (Vincent's Collections, vol.3, p.98, College of Arms)]. Mary remarried to William de Duston, and both were living June 1220 [Curia Regis Rolls, vol.9, p.57].

    5. John FitzAlan, his brother and heir, as given above.

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    William Fitz-Alan, in the 12th Henry II [1166], upon the assessment in aid of marrying the king's daughter, certified his knights' fees to be in number thirty-five and a half. He d. about 1172, and was s. by his son, William Fitz-Alan. [Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd, London, 1883, p. 200, Fitz-Alan, Earls of Arundel]




    Father: William FITZALAN , Lord of Oswestry b: ABT 1105 in Oswestry Castle, Shropshire, England
    Mother: Isabel de SAY b: 1135 in Clun, Shropshire, England

    Marriage 1 Miss de LACY b: ABT 1168 in Ewyas Harold, Dore, Herefordshire, England
      Children
      1. Has No Children William FITZALAN , Lord of Clun & Oswestry, Sir b: AFT 1189 in Clun, Shropshire, England
      2. Has Children John FITZALAN , Lord of Clun & Oswestry b: ABT 1192 in Oswestry Castle, Shropshire, England

      Sources:
      1. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
        Page: 107
      2. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
        Page: 1985
      3. Title: Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml
        Page: vol 3, Clun & Oswestry
      4. Title: Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml
        Page: V:391 FitzAlan (of Oswestry)
      5. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
        Page: 109
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