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  • ID: I02755
  • Name: Robert BANASTRE , of Newton & Walton 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1239 in Newton in Makerfield, Warrington, Cheshire, England 1
  • Death: 1291 in Walton le Dale, Preston, Lancashire, England 1
  • Death: BEF 12 FEB 1287/88
  • Note:
    The following is from 'The Barony of Newton in Makerfield', VCH Lancashire I:366-75:

    He [Robert Banastre] left issue two sons, John, who died before the end of February, 1242, and Robert, who was a
    minor at his brother's death. He possessed in 1242 in demesne half a knight's fee in Makerfield, held of the earl of Ferrers, and the fourth part of a knight's fee in Shevington, Charnock Richard, and Welch Whittle, held of the fee of Penwortham, in addition to his fee in Walton-in-le-Dale, held of the honour of Clitheroe, which latter had been granted during his minority to the prior of Penwortham at the rent of L15 12s. 11d. per annum. He was a ward nineteen years, and therefore did not come of age until 1260 at the earliest. He was thus only five years old in 1246 when he manumitted two of his natives of Poulton, near Warrington, a liberty extended to other natives of Ashton and Newton, in Makerfield, in 1256. He obtained on 13 January, 1257, a charter of free warren in his demesne lands of Walton-in-le-Dale, Newton-(in)-Makerfield, and Woolston, near Warrington, and in December of the same year a weekly market on Tuesday, and an annual fair on the eve, the feast, and the morrow of St. German the bishop, at his manor of Newton. In November, 1268, he was appealing Richard de Holand and eight others in the king's court for the destruction of his fish pond at Newton, and for carrying away and imprisoning his wife and sons. 6 He was commissioned in 1279 with two others to inquire of those in the county having land to the value of 20 yearly who had not taken up knight's service. The same year he was commissioned to inquire of trespasses done in the forests of Lancaster. In 1280 he was one of the justices appointed for the gaol delivery at Lancaster. We have dealt at length with the petition which he presented in Parliament in 1278 for the recovery of the manor of Prestatyn, lost by his great-grandfather a hundred years before. He failed to obtain a re-grant of this estate, but there is some evidence that in lieu thereof the king gave him the manor of Little Mollington, co. Chester, afterwards known as Mollington Banastre, to hold by the service of a fourth part of a knight's fee. In 1284, whilst Richard was prior of St. Oswald's of Nostell, Robert Banastre obtained licence for a chantry in his manor of Rokeden in Newton, in return for which he endowed the church of Winwick with a yearly rent of 12d. for lights for the altar of St. Mary the Virgin. To Cockersand Abbey he confirmed all grants of land made by his tenants in Makerfield, but reserved 'Infangenthef et Utefangenthev ' over the tenants of those lands, as pertaining to him by reason of his barony. To the monks of Stanlaw he gave ten acres of land adjoining the chapel of the Low in Walton, and estovers in his wood there. He married Alice, daughter and heir of Gilbert Woodcock, who had lands in Cuerden by the feoffment of Roger, son of Henry de Cuerden. She survived her husband, whose death occurred in 1291. He had issue one son, James, who predeceased his father, and a daughter Clemence, who had Mollington Banastre in marriage with William de Lea, of Lea, near Preston, whose son Henry de Lea, kt., was beheaded in 1315 for participation in the rising which Adam Banastre, kt., led against Thomas, earl of Lancaster; and a daughter Sibil, married to Richard de Hoghton, of Hoghton, kt.

    NOTE: The following, edited by William Farrer (author of the above) contains a correction to the above concerning Robert's wife:

    Manor of Walton-le-Dale, Lancashire:

    The descent of the Banastres and of their successors the Langtons having been given in the Feudal Baronage, it is only necessary to add here a few additional notes more immediately relating to Walton. In 1253 Robert Banastre brought proceedings in the King's Court against Peter de Burnhull for felling trees in Walton Wood, and in consequence a perambulation was ordered to fix the bounds between Walton and Brindle. (fn. 22) The abundance of wood in the northern and eastern parts of the township at this date indicates the aptness of the name 'weald tún.' Banastre obtained in 1257 a charter of free warren here, and in 1278 took action against four of the principal freeholders who had withdrawn their suit from Walton Mill, but they denied his title to the mill. He married in 1269 Alesia relict of Philip de Legh of co. Stafford and daughter of Robert de Grendon of Grendon and Shenstone in the same county, and by this union acquired some small interest in that county.

    22. Cur. Reg. R. 149, m. 11; Close, 37 & 38 Hen. III, 68, m. 9 d. The marriage to Alice daughter and heir of Gilbert Woodcock of Cuerden, alleged by Dr. Kuerden and repeated in V.C.H. Lancs. i, 372, must be disregarded.

    ['Townships: Walton-le-Dale', A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 6 (1911), pp. 289-300. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk]

    NOTE: The 1269 marriage date (which is in both the article for Walton-le-Dale & Newton) seems about 10 years too late for the next generation, especially for James' daughter Alesia/Alice who appears to have been 6 years old when she and her husband were summoned to prove their request for a market at Newton. Maybe some of the rootsweb people are right making two Alices, one the dau. of this generation (Robert & Alesia), who m. John Byron, and another Alesia, dau. of James, who m. John Langton. An older Alice makes sense for the Byron marriage.

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    Manor of Cuerden, Lancashire:

    From the early part of the 12th century, and possibly before that, CUERDEN was a member of the Sefton fee, held by the Molyneux family. In some way not ascertained the lordship passed to the Banastres of Walton-le-Dale and Newton-in-Makerfield, whose right in Cuerden becomes evident about 1270, and whose lordship descended with the manor of Walton to the Langtons.

    About 1290, however, the immediate lordship of the manor became vested in a certain Ingelram de Amelcotes...

    ['Townships: Cuerden', A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 6 (1911), pp. 23-29. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk]

    NOTE: I interpret the above as Ingelram de Amelcotes and his descendants, etc. were tenants, holding Cuerden of the Banastres and then the Langtons, who were the mesne lords, collecting rents from the tenants.




    Father: Robert BANASTRE , of Newton & Walton b: ABT 1217 in Newton in Makerfield, Warrington, Cheshire, England
    Mother: Clemence de ORREBY b: ABT 1217 in Alvanley, Runcorn, Cheshire, England

    Marriage 1 Alesia de GRENDON b: ABT 1239 in Grendon, Atherstone, Warwickshire, England
    • Married: 1269 in 2nd husband 2
    Children
    1. Has Children James BANASTRE , of Newton & Walton b: ABT 1270 in Newton in Makerfield, Warrington, Cheshire, England
    2. Has Children Clemence BANASTRE , heir of Mollington b: ABT 1272 in Walton le Dale, Preston, Lancashire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: VCH - Lancashire, vol I, William Farrer, 1861-1924:. URL: http://archive.org
      Page: 366-75
    2. Title: VCH - Lancashire:. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk
      Repository:
      Media: Book
      Page: VI:289-300
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