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  • ID: I02511
  • Name: Philip III "The Bold" King of FRANCE 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 3 APR 1245 in Poissy, Yvelines, Ile-de-France, France 3 4
  • Death: 5 OCT 1285 in Perpignan, Pyrenees-Orientales, Languedoc-Roussillon, France 3 5
  • Event: Ruled 1270-1285
  • Burial: St. Denis, Ile-de-France, France
  • Note:
    The following is a post to SGM, 4 May 2003, by Douglas Richardson:

    From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry AT msn.com)
    Subject: Marriage Date of Philippe III, King of France, and Isabel of Aragon
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2003-05-04 23:33:39 PST

    Dear Newsgroup:

    Various English sources I've checked state that Philippe III, King of France, married 28 May 1262 to Isabel, daughter of Jaime I, King of Aragon. However, I've located a contemporary French record of this couple's marriage entered into the records of Eudes Rigaud, Archbishop of Rouen. This record reads as follows:

    II. non. Julii. [6 July 1262]. Cum Dei adjuturio, in majori ecclesia dicti loci, presentibus Francorum et Aragonum et Navarrae regibus, multisque Franciae praelatis et baronibus, desponsavimus dominum Philippum, primogenitum domini regis Francorum, cum domicella Ysabelli, filia dicti regis Aragonum." [Reference: Visitations of Eudes Rigaud, Archbishop of Rouen, printed in Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France, by J.-D. Guigniaut, vol. 21 (1855): 587].

    I assume the above record is authentic. It basically states that Philippe and Isabel were married 6 July 1262, in the presence of the kings of France, Aragon, and Navarre, and various French prelates and barons. If this account is accurate, then the marriage of King Philippe III and his wife, Isabel of Aragon, will have to be re-dated to be 6 July 1262.

    Does anyone have another contemporary French source which would confirm or counter the above information?

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    E-mail: royalancestry AT msn.com

    Note: Subsequent discussion involved whether they were married twice (once in a smaller ceremony and then again in a public ceremony).




    Father: Louis IX "St. Louis" King of FRANCE b: 25 APR 1214 in Poissy, Yvelines, Ile-de-France, France
    Mother: Margaret of PROVENCE b: 1221 in St Maime, Alpes-de-Haute-Provence, Provence, France

    Marriage 1 Isabella Princess of ARAGON b: 1243 in Barcelona, Spain
    • Married: 28 MAY 1262 in Clermont, Auvergne, France 6
    • Married: 6 JUL 1262 7
    Children
    1. Has Children Philip IV "The Fair" King of FRANCE b: 1268 in Fontainebleau, Seine-et-Marne, Ile-de-France, France
    2. Has Children Charles III Count of VALOIS b: 12 MAR 1269/70 in Vincennes, Val-de-Marne/Paris, France

    Marriage 2 Marie of BRABANT b: 1256 in Brabant, Belgium
    • Married: 21 AUG 1274 in 2nd wife 8
    • Married: 1272 in 2nd wife 6
    Children
    1. Has Children Louis Comte d' EVREUX , Prince of France b: MAY 1276 in Fontainebleau, Essonne, Ile-de-France, France
    2. Has Children Marguerite Princess of FRANCE b: 1279 in Paris, Seine, Ile-de-France, France

    Sources:
    1. Title: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on
      Page: Phillip III
    2. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 4, 5
    3. Title: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on
      Page: Treatise on Philip III
    4. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 4
      Text: 1245
    5. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 4
      Text: 1285
    6. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 101-29
    7. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 4 May 2003
    8. Title: Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org
      Page: Marie of Brabant
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