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  • ID: I02103
  • Name: Ralph de SUDELEY , Earl of Hereford 1 2 3 4 5
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: 00th Earl of /Hereford/, Ralph de Sudeley
  • Name: Ralf de MANTES , Earl of Hereford 6
  • Birth: BEF 1028 in Mantes-la-Jolie, Yvelines, Ile-de-France, France
  • Death: 21 DEC 1057 in Sudeley Castle, Gloucestershire, England 2 4 5
  • Burial: Peterborough Abbey, Northamptonshire, England
  • Note:
    Ralph, described by contemporaries as "Comes" [Earl], possibly a courtier of comital rank but without a territorial earldom, at any rate in England, for he was French, to support the dignity, but also possibly Earl of Worcester or conceivably Hereford (he was employed at a high level against a Welsh incursion into England and revolts by various earls throughout the 1050s, though on one occasion he and his soldiers ran away before fighting even began); and/or even the East Midlands; held Sudeley and Toddington, Glos, and Chilvers Cotton, Warwicks; married Getha, and died 21 Dec 1057. [Burke's Peerage]

    Note: The Plantagenet Ancestry calls him Earl of Hereford.

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    EARLDOM of HEREFORD (0) - preconquest

    A pre-Conquest Earldom of Hereford has been assigned to Ralph, son of Dreux, Count of the Vexin, by Goda, sister of Edward the Confessor, but he is first credited with an Earldom of Worcester prior to 1049. On the landing of Eustace, Count of Boulogne, "Earl Ralph" is stated to have been one of those who brought assistance "de suo comitatu", but it is not by any means clear what is intended by "comitatu". When the great earldom of Swein was confiscated and broken up, Ralph is presumed to have received Herefordshire, and to have been Earl of Hereford when he opposed Aelfgar's forces in 1055. According to Hoveden, he met the enemy 2 miles from Hereford and shortly after the battle fled from the field with his French and Norman followers, leaving Hereford to be sacked and burnt. He d. 21 Dec 1057, and was buried in Peterborough Abbey. [Complete Peerage VI:446-7]

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    RALPH, 2nd son of Dreux and Godgifu. He held Sudeley and Toddington, co. Gloucester, and Chilvers Coton, co. Warwick, T.R.E. In 1051, when Godwine, Earl of Kent, rebelled and collected an army at Tetbury, Leofric, Earl of Mercia, and Siward, Earl of Northumbria, went to the aid of the King at Gloucester, and Radulfus comes . . . de juo comitatu quot potuit congregavit. In the same year, he and Odda, Earl of Devon and Somerset, were appointed by the King to command the fleet. In 1055 he was sent with a numerous army to protect Hereford against Alfgar, the rebel Earl of Chester, and Griffin, his Welsh ally; but he and his horsemen fled before the battle was effectively joined, and Hereford was burnt by the Welsh. He married Getha. He died 21 December 1057 and was buried at Peterborough. [Complete Peerage XII/1:411-2, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]




    Father: Dreux (Drogo) Count of Amiens & VEXIN b: ABT 990 in Amiens, Somme, Picardy, France
    Mother: Godgifu (Goda) Princess of ENGLAND b: ABT 1004 in Wessex, England

    Marriage 1 Getha (Gytha) CLOPA b: ABT 1040
    • Married: ABT 1055
    Children
    1. Has Children Harold de EWYAS , Lord of Sudeley b: ABT 1055 in Sudeley Castle, Gloucestershire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 141
      Text: Ralph, Earl of Hereford
    2. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 235-21
    3. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 2757
    4. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VI:446-7
    5. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XII/1:411-2
    6. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Todd A Farmerie, 4 Dec 2003
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