The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I01853
  • Name: Adeliz (Alice) le MESCHIN 1 2 3
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1098 in Chester, Cheshire, England
  • Death: AFT 1142
  • Note:
    Adeliz (or Alice) [daughter of Ranulph III le Meschin, Earl of Chester by Lucy], m. (1) Richard Fitz Gilbert (also styled de Clare), lord of Clare, Suffolk, d. 1136; m. (2) Robert de Condet (or Cundy), d. c 1141, lord of Thorngate Castle in the city of Lincoln, and of Wickhambreux, Kent, Grimston, co. Notthingham, and South Carlton, Thurlby, Eagle and Skellingthorpe, co. Lincoln, son of Osbert de Condet (or Cundy), d. by 1130, lord of Wickhambreux, Kent, Grimston, co. Nottingham, and South Carlton, Eagle and Skellingthorpe, co. Lincoln, by Adelaide, daughter and heir of William de Chesney, lord of Caenby and Glentham, co. Lincoln. [Ancestral Roots, Line 132d-27]

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    Adeliz (or Alice), daughter of Ranulph le Meschin, Earl of Chester, by Lucy, widow (1) of Ivo Taillebois and (2) Roger Fitz Gerold. She m. (2) Robert de Condet (or Cundy), d. c 1141, lord of Thorngate Castle, Lincoln, etc., son of Osbert de Condet. [Ancestral Roots, Line 246b-25]

    Note: The previous generation of this line (AR Line 246b-24) has Adeliza (or Adelaide) de Clermont m. (1) Gilbert Fitz Richard, (2) Robert de Condet (or Cundy), d. c 1141, lord of Thorngate Castle, co. Lincoln, etc., son of Osbert de Condet. This is practically word for word what 246b-25 describes as Adeliz le Meschin's 2nd husband was. Since 132d-27 agrees with 246b-25, I think 246b-24 is a wierd mistake. According to CP & SGM, Bouchard IV de Montmorency was the 2nd husband of Adeliza de Clermont.

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    He [Richard FitzGilbert de Clare] married Adeliz, sister of Ranulph "des Gernons," EARL OF CHESTER. He was founder of the priory of Tonbridge. He died, being surprised and slain by the Welsh, near Abergavenny 15 April 1136, and was buried at Gloucester. His widow was rescued from the Welsh by Miles of Gloucester. [Complete Peerage III:243, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]




    Father: Ranulph le MESCHIN , 1st Earl of Chester b: ABT 1070 in Briquessard, Calvados, Normandy, France
    Mother: Lucy (Lucia) of MERCIA b: ABT 1070 in Crowland & Spalding, Lincolnshire, England

    Marriage 1 Richard FitzGilbert de CLARE & Tonbridge, Sir b: ABT 1090 in Clare, Risbridge, Suffolk, England
    • Married: BEF 1115 in 1st husband 4
    Children
    1. Has No Children Gilbert de CLARE , 1st Earl of Hertford b: BEF 1115 in Tonbridge, Tunbridge, Kent, England
    2. Has Children Roger de CLARE , 2nd Earl of Hertford b: 1116 in Tonbridge, Tunbridge, Kent, England
    3. Has Children Adeliza de CLARE b: ABT 1117 in Tonbridge, Tunbridge, Kent, England
    4. Has Children Agnes de CLARE b: ABT 1119 in Clare, Risbridge, Suffolk, England
    5. Has Children Adles CLARE b: ABT 1125 in Tonbridge, Tunbridge, Kent, England
    6. Has Children Rohese de CLARE b: ABT 1128 in Tonbridge, Tunbridge, Kent, England

    Marriage 2 Robert de CONDET , Lord of Thorngate b: ABT 1100 in Skellingthorpe, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
    • Married: AFT 1136 in 2nd husband 5
    Children
    1. Has Children Roger de CONDET , of Caenby & Glentham b: ABT 1138 in Eagle, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
    2. Has Children Isabel de CONDET , Heir of South Carlton b: ABT 1140 in Skellingthorpe, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 153-2
      Text: Richard FitzGilbert de Clare m. Adeliza, sister of Ranulph de Guernons, Earl of Chester
    2. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 132d-27, 246b-25
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: III:243
    4. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 132d-27
      Text: no date, 1st husband
    5. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 132d-27
      Text: date implied by death of 1st husband
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