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  • ID: I01764
  • Name: Walter I GIFFARD , Seigneur of Longueville 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1005 in Longueville-sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France
  • Death: 1084 3
  • Death: 1085 2
  • Note:
    Walter Giffard, d. 1084, Lord of Longueville, a companion of William I at Battle of Hastings, 1066, son of Osbern de Bolbec, seigneur of Longueville-sur-Scie in Normandy 1028-1035, and Duvelina, sister of the Duchess Gunnora; m. Agnes, daughter of Girard Flatel. [Ancestral Roots]

    Note: Turton has Walter as son of Osbern II de Bolbec, son of Osbern by Avelina de Crepon (making his grandmother & grandfather more or less the same as Ancestral Roots has as his father & mother). I have chosen to stay with Ancestral Roots.

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    The following post-em, by Mike Lysell, mlysell AT comcast.net, also has Walter as grandson of Osbern I, but with another Walter (instead of Turton's Osbern II) in between as father (I am still sticking with AR):

    Jim - Carl Boyer, in "Medievil English Ancestors of Certian Americans", page 104, shows Walter, the son of Osbern I, as born in 978 with a brother Godfrey and a son Walter who was born in 1010. According to Boyer, Walter married Emmengard Flaitel and had the following children:
    i. Osbert (Osbern, Bolebec), d. by 1095
    ii. Rohese, b. say 1045
    iii. William
    iv. Walter, 1st Earl of Buckingham; b. say 1051; d. Jul 15, 1102; m. Agnes de Ribemont
    v. Berenger, possible son, b. say 1054

    Boyer cites Vernon M. Noor’s "Some Early English Pedigrees" as a source.

    Mike Lysell

    Note: I have seen discussions about this in SGM, and Todd Farmerie says that the dates for Walter are "long" and numerous authors have suggested that the original sources had compressed two Walter de Giffards into one person, but that there is no proof one way or the other.




    Father: Osbern I de BOLBEC , Seigneur of Longueville b: ABT 945 in Bolbec, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France
    Mother: Avelina (Wevia) de ARQUE b: ABT 957 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France

    Marriage 1 Agnes FLATEL b: ABT 1014 in Evreux, Eure, Normandy, France
    • Married: ABT 1025 in France
    Children
    1. Has Children Osbert (Osbern) I GIFFARD , Lord of Brimpsfield b: ABT 1030 in Longueville-sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France
    2. Has Children Rohese GIFFARD b: ABT 1036 in Longueville-sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France
    3. Has Children Walter II GIFFARD , Earl of Buckingham b: ABT 1040 in Longueville-sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France

    Sources:
    1. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 153-1
      Text: father of Rohese
    2. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 94
    3. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 184-1
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