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  • ID: I00994
  • Name: Rurik I Grand Duke of KIEV , a Viking 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 820 in Novgorod, Russia
  • Death: 879 in Kiev, Ukraine 4
  • Note:
    Alexander Agamov, expressing current Russian thinking, doesn't think that Rurik stayes too long in Novgorod, but immediately went to Kiev, because Novgorod & Kiev were bitter enemies, and it was not likely that Rurik would make such a transition after establishing himself in Novgorod. Many Russians doubt the existence of Rurik, and trace the ancestry of Igor, whose existence and descents are well founded.

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    The following post to SGM, 21 Sep 2000, by Rynjulf Langballe, gives an account of Rurik's possible (speculative, but reasoned) ancstry (according to a Scandinavian view, which is not always agreed upon, especially by Stewart Baldwin, et. al.). However it looks OK as a tentative pedigree, until disproven:

    From: Brynjulf Langballe (b-lan AT online.no)
    Subject: Re: Rurik
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2000/09/21

    Rurik was very likely son of Bjørn Ironside who was son of Ragnar Lodbrok. Ragnar was king in the area called Denmark in his time. This was an area that for hundred of years had covered present Denmark, western Sweden and the south east of Norway. Ragnar conquered Sweden, Finland and parts of Russia probably in 832. Later he sat his son Whiteserk in rule of Russia after a second campagne which frightened Byzants. After 850 Whiteserk was killed in Russia and Ragnar made a third campagne. Bjørn Ironside was set to rule both Sweden and Russia. But in 862 he was killed in a battle in Frisia. The same year the Nestor Chronicle is saying Rusia was in lack of a king and asked (his son) Rurik to come.

    The place Rurik come from is said to be Sweden, Jutland or Frisia. His father was king in Sweden. When Saxo is saying Jutland this is Gothland (Gøtaland) in Sweden. Rurik very well could have followed his father to Frisia as well, and therefor where coming physicly from there. Something confusing the understanding of this is another Rurik in Frisia at the same time. He was son of king Ali (Anulo) of Haithabu and was king in Dorestadt 826-833 and was in the service of the Franks from 850 to 882.

    The bear attribute of Russia seems to come from the name of Rurik's father, Bjørn, which is bear in Scandinavian language.

    Brynjulf Langballe, Norway




    Father: Bjorn "Ironside" RAGNARSSON b: ABT 780 in Sweden

    Marriage 1 Efenda b: 850 in Novgorod, Russia
    • Married: 876 in Novgorod, Russia
    Children
    1. Has Children Igor I Duke of KIEV b: ABT 877 in Novgorod, Russia

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 241-1
      Text: parents unknown
    2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Alexander Agamov, 28 Nov 1996
      Text: parents unknown, his existence questioned
    3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Brynjulf Langballe, 21 Sep 2000
      Text: Bjorn suggested as father.
    4. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 241-1
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