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  • ID: I00911
  • Name: Louis II "The Stammerer" King of FRANCE 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1 NOV 846 in France 3
  • Death: 10 APR 879 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-de-France, France 1
  • Event: Ruled 877-879
  • Note:
    There is a lot of confusion as to the order of Louis' wives; whether they were legitimate marriages; and which was the mother of his various children. For example Ancestral Roots, in line 143-16 states that Adelaide of Paris is the 3rd wife, while in line 148-16, AR states that Adelaide was the 2nd wife. I am following line 143 (3rd wife), which makes her the last wife, and obviously mother of Charles III, since he was born posthumously.

    (Andre Roux: Scrolls, 191.)
    (Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-38.)
    (Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.)
    (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 258.)
    (Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Page 387).

    Louis II, King de France (the Stammerer) AKA: Louis II, King d'Aquitaine. Also Known As: Louis "Le Begue".

    Born: in Nov 846 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-de-France, France, son of Charles II, King de France and Ermentrude d'Orleans . Married in 862: Ansgarde de Bourgogne , daughter of Hardouin, Count de Bourgogne; She was given in marriage to Louis by her brother, Odon, often confused with Odon, Count of Troyes, an older man and one of Louis' detractors (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 185). Note - between 867 and 879: Louis II was the King of Aquitaine from 867 to 879 and became King of France in 877, crowned at Compiegne by Hincmar, Archbishop of Rheims on 8 October. If the children and grandchildren of Charlemagne had an easy time ascending to the throne by virtue of their parentage, the same is not true for Louis. Louis had to be elected by the Greats - the nobles whose power had been growing steadily - and they conceded only after having received countships and additional powers. Moreover, Louis had to accept the tutelage of his maternal uncle, Hughes, Marquis of Neustria who also received the countship of Tours. He died 16 months later while making preparations to reprimand Bernard, Duke of Septimanie. Upon his death, nobles, looking to enhance their own power saw the kingdom partitioned between Louis III and Carloman, who were both crowned and anointed at Ferrieres in September 879 by Ansegis, Archbishop of Sens. Louis III's portion comprised Francia and Neustria, and Carloman ruled Burgundy, Aquitaine and Gothia.

    Married between 868 and 869: Adelaide=Adelheid de Paris, daughter of Adalhard, Count de Paris. [Note: I have differenty ancestry for Adelaide, see notes under Adelaide]

    Died: on 11 Apr 879 in France at age 32 Louis II died sooner than expected after having divided his kingdom between his two sons, Louis III and Carloman. To the older son went Francia and Neustria; and to the younger went Bourgogne, Aquitaine and the Marche of Spain. This creation of two kingdoms is highly disputed because the two sons are not viewed by some as legitimate because Charles le Chauve had not officially recognized Louis marriage to Ansgarde. Louis was not favored, and on 15 October 879, Provence and Bourgogne recognize Richilde's (Charles le Chauve's widow) brother, Bozon. Moreover, Louis, son of Louis le Germanique, also lays claim to the throne of France. Thus, to make matters rather complicated there exists three kings of France at this time.

    Father: Charles II "The Bald" Holy Roman EMPEROR b: 13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia
    Mother: Ermentrude d' ORLEANS b: 27 SEP 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France

    Marriage 1 Luitgarde of SAXONY b: ABT 848 in Saxony, Germany
    • Married: in 1st wife

    Marriage 2 Ansgarde of NEUSTRIA b: ABT 848 in Neustria, France
    • Married: 862 in 2nd wife 4
    1. Has Children Ermengarde (Adelaide) de FRANCE b: ABT 863 in France

    Marriage 3 Adelaide of PARIS b: ABT 848 in Paris, Seine, Ile-de-France, France
    • Married: BEF 870 in 3rd wife 5
    1. Has Children Ermentrude Princess of FRANCE b: 870 in Paris, Seine, Ile-de-France, France
    2. Has Children Charles III "The Simple" King of FRANCE b: 17 SEP 879 in France

    1. Title: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on
      Page: Louis II
    2. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 7
    3. Title: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on
      Page: Louis II
      Text: 846-year only
    4. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 7
      Text: states 1st wife, but there is confusion over the number of wives
    5. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 143-16, 148-16
      Text: 143=168/70 (3rd wife), 148=168 (2nd wife)
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