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  • ID: I00640
  • Name: Robert de FERRERS , 1st Earl of Derby 1
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: 01st Earl of /Derby/, Robert de Ferrieres
  • Name: Robert de FERRIERES , 1st Earl of Derby 2
  • Birth: ABT 1062 in Ferrieres-St-Hilaire, Eure, Normandy, France 3
  • Death: 1139 in Tutbury, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England 1 2
  • Christening: Chartley Holme, Stafford, Staffordshire, England
  • Note:
    EARLDOM OF DERBY (I) 1138

    ROBERT DE FERRIERES, 3rd son, succeeded to the greater part of his father's possessions in England (c). He was one of the commanders at the Battle of the Standard, in August 1138, and was, for his services, created Earl of Derby by King Stephen, shortly afterwards. He married Hawise, daughter of André, Seigneur de Vitré in Brittany, by Agnes, daughter of Robert, Count of Mortain. He died in 1139. [Complete Peerage IV:191, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (c) . . . The lands in Normandy were eventually inherited by Henry de Ferrieres, his nephew (son and heir of one of his brothers, Engenulf or William). Henry, who was living in 1136, held Oakham, co. Rutland, and Lechlade, co. Gloucester (a manor held by his grandfather Henry at the Domesday Survey). He was father of Walkelin, who was father of (1) Henry, Seigneur de Chambres in 1202, (2) Hugh, of Lechlade, who dsp. in 1204, having m. Margaret, daughter and heir of Hugh de Say of Richard's Castle, and (3) Isabel (d. before 31 May 1252), who m., 1stly, Roger de Mortemer of Wigmore (d. 24 June 1214), and 2ndly, Piers fitz Herbert of Blaen Llyfni (d. 1 June 1235). Isabel inherited Lechlade, and also Oakham, which her eldest brother, Henry, had lost at the time of the conquest of Normandy. Henry was the ancestor of the seigneurs of Ferrieres and Chambrais, the last of whom, Jean, dspm. in 1504. A custom quite recently existed that a peer of the realm, the first time he passed through Oakham, should give a horse-shoe to be nailed upon the castle-gate; a toll or privilege dating, no doubt, from the time of the ancient lords of that town.

    Note: Most people on the internet have Robert being christened at "Charterley, Staffs". If he was born in 1062, it was certainly in Normandy; perhaps he was christened in England after 1066. Since there is no Charterley (any where, let alone in Staffordshire), they must be referring to the area of the town now known as Chartley Holme in Staffs (nearby Chartley Castle wasn't built until 1220 by Ranulph Blundeville, Earl of Chester). There were Ferrers who were Lords of Chartley later on, but that family received Chartley through the marriage of William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby, to Agnes of Chester, sister & heir of Ranulph Blundeville (Ranulph died without issue), so Chartley Castle was not inherited from the Ferrers of this period.

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    Robert de Ferrers, having contributed, at the head of the Derbyshire men, to King Stephen's victory over King David of Scotland at Northallerton (commonly called the battle of the Standard), was created by that monarch Earl of Derby. By Hawise his wife, he had William who d. s. p.; Robert his successor; Walcheline, of Okeham; Isolda, m. to Stephen de Beauchamp; and Maud, m. to Bertram de Verdon. The earl d. in 1139 and was s. by his son, Robert de Ferrers, as 2nd Earl of Derby. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 196, Verdon, Earls of Derby]




    Father: Henry de FERRERS , of Tutbury, Sir b: ABT 1036 in Ferrieres-St-Hilaire, Eure, Normandy, France
    Mother: Bertha de l' AIGLE b: ABT 1044 in Aigle, Orne, Normandy, France

    Marriage 1 Hawise de VITRE b: ABT 1087 in Vitre, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France
      Children
      1. Has Children Miss de FERRERS , Heiress of Greenham b: ABT 1112 in Greenham, Newbury, Berkshire, England
      2. Has Children Isabel de FERRERS b: ABT 1116 in Tutbury, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
      3. Has Children Robert de FERRERS , 2nd Earl of Derby b: ABT 1118 in Tutbury, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England

      Sources:
      1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
        Page: 55-26
      2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Page: IV:191
      3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: Ed Mann, 6 May 1998
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