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  • ID: I00364
  • Name: Adele (Adela\Aelis\Alais) Princess of FRANCE 1 2 3 4
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1013 in France 5
  • Death: 8 JAN 1078/79 in Monastere de l'O, Messines, France 2
  • Note:
    Adele (or Aelis) of France, [daughter of Robert II by Constance of Provence], Countess of Contenance, d. Messines, 8 Jan 1079; m. (1) 1027 Richard III, Duke of Normandy, dsp. legit 6 Aug 1027; m. (2) 1028 Baldwin V, Count of Flanders, d. Lille, 1 Sep 1067. [Ancestral Roots, line 128-22]

    Note: Contenance does not exist anywhere in France, people on soc.genealogy.medieval (the newgroup) don't know what it means either.

    Note: Deborah L. Bay, in an e-mail, pointed out that Adele/Aelis was born about the same time as Adele, who was married to Renaud, Count of Nevers. Even though they were apparently named the same, born about the same time, and to the same parents, they are different sisters, with different death dates, different titles, and they both had children by their different husbands at exactly the same time (1030). I have encountered this situation where children are named the same 3 or 4 other times (more often/commonly when one died young).




    Father: Robert II "The Pious" King of FRANCE b: 27 MAR 972 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France
    Mother: Constance of PROVENCE b: ABT 986 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France

    Marriage 1 Richard III Duke of NORMANDY b: ABT 997 in Rouen, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France
    • Married: 1027 in 1st husband 2
    Children
    1. Has Children Helene "le Bon" de NORMANDY b: ABT 1027 in Rouen, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France

    Marriage 2 Baudouin V Count of FLANDERS b: 1012 in Flanders, France
    • Married: 1028 in 2nd husband 2 6
    Children
    1. Has Children Baudouin VI Count (I of Hainault) of FLANDERS b: 1030 in Flanders now Belgium
    2. Has Children Maud (Matilda) of FLANDERS b: 1032 in Flanders, France
    3. Has Children Robert I le Frison Count of FLANDERS b: ABT 1031 in Flanders now Belgium
    4. Has Children Alix of FLANDERS b: ABT 1040 in Flanders now Belgium

    Sources:
    1. Title: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on
      Page: Baldwin IV
      Text: Baldwin V at the instigation of his wife Adela dau of Robert II of France rebelled against Baldwin IV in 1028.
    2. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 128-22
    3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Peter Stewart, 1 Jul 2001
      Text: probably known as Adela or Alais
    4. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 19
    5. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Peter Stewart, 1 Jul 2001
    6. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 19
      Text: no date, 2nd husband
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