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  • ID: I04183
  • Name: Edith (Ida) Lena Friederike Johanna COBERNUSS
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: 16 AUG 1874 in Matgendorf, Belitz, Meck-Vpr, Ger. 1
  • Death: 9 SEP 1917 in Detroit, Wayne, Meck-Vpr, Ger. 2
  • Burial: Forest Lawn Cemetery - Detroit, Wayne, MI
  • Change Date: 13 JAN 2002
  • Note:
    Heidi,

    I spend last week going over the Thuerkow parish records and am workingonBelitz this week . T hese are the two parishes where your Cobernussfamilylived.

    I don't have it all put together yet but hope to have a revisedfamilytree for you sometim e t his week and I'll post it on the homepagefor you.I don't expect many changes. As you migh t r emember I was havingproblemfiguring out who Christian's grandfather was. There were a cou pl eofcandidates named Heinrich. I found an entry on Christian's father'sdeathrecord that ind i cated who his parents were. I think I had itcorrectoriginally but needed to recheck.

    Also, the two children that travelled with Christian and Sophia Engelwerenamed and "Wilh" a g e 8 (b. 1875) and "Henry" age five (b. 1877) .I'vealways been bothered because I could no t m atch these two childrenupexactly with your records. However I now think I have it figur e out .

    I looked again at the Belitz church records and confirmed thatChristinand Sophia had two c h ildren in the the village of Matgendorf.

    The first child born to Sophia was Ida Friederike Johanna born 16April1874. The father wa s n ot mentioned in the original record, butsomeonelater entered in the name of the father i n pe ncil as"ChristianCobernuss". I believe this must be the Edith (Ida) born about1874 fro myou r records. She would have been about 8 years old when herparentsimmigrated in 1882. I to ok a nother look at the passenger recordand the 8year old male child's name appears to be "Wi lh" . However thereis alittle check mark in the female box indicating that maybe there wasan erro r made when the manifest was prepared. This must be Ida.

    Christian and Sophia were married 16 April 1875 in Belitz and theirsecondchild Heinrich Ca r l Ludwig Fritz Jochim was born 31 Jan 1876. Hewouldhave been about 5 or 6 when his paren t s immigrated.

    Bottom Line: I think we've accounted for the two children on the1882voyage. Although the pa s senger records are pretty accurate, I'vefoundsimilar name and sex errors for other familie s . "Wilh" isactuallyIda/Edith and Henry's name and Dob matches. (It's possible he wasbor n i n1877 because the birth record says "1876/77" and I might havewritten thewrong year becau s e the two years are on the same page. )

    The first record of your family I have in the US is the 1900census.Henry, Anna and Caroli n a were living with Christian and Sophia.Nomention of (Edith/Ida) because she married Bushw a y in 1894. I'l bet ifwelook for Bushway in the 1900 census we'll find the family. Somethi n gyoumight want to do?

    Hope this makes sense.


    George




    Father: Christ. Wil. Fried. (Kummernuss) COBERNUSS b: 20 JUL 1849 in Levitzow, Thuerkow, Meck-Vpr, Ger.
    Mother: Sophia Friederike Carolina Christina ENGEL b: 8 APR 1846 in Maybe Matgendorf, Belitz, Meck-Vpr, Ger.

    Marriage 1 Henry (Buschway) BUSHWAY b: ABT 1871
    • Married: 8 AUG 1894 in Detroit, Wayne, MI 3
    Children
    1. Has No Children Edith Leana BUSHWAY b: ABT 1895
    2. Has No Children Clarence BUSHWAY b: ABT 1895
    3. Has No Children Patrick BUSHWAY b: ABT 1895

    Sources:
    1. Title: Church Record - Belitz - Birth, LDS 0068991
      Note: Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR Church Record - Belitz - Birth, LDS 0068991

      Source Media Type: Church Record
      Text: Father not named but later entered after parents married 16 apr 1875.
      Carl Engel (Matgendorf) , August Engel (Goffin?) , Dorothea Engel (Matgendorf).
    2. Title: E-Mail - Heidi Lemanski - 20 April 2001
      Note: ABBR E-Mail - Heidi Lemanski - 20 April 2001

      Source Media Type: Book
      Repository:
      Media: Book
    3. Title: Vital Record - MI, Wayne County - Marriage
      Note: Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR Vital Record - Wayne County MI - Marriage

      Source Media Type: Book
      Repository:
      Media: Book
      Page: Book 4, p. 75, Cert # 16584
      Text: Father: Joseph Busway, Mother Mathilda Fountain
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