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  • ID: I04069
  • Name: John ENDRES
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 30 MAR 1849 1
  • Death: 20 APR 1892 2
  • Burial: Oakgrove Cemetery - Detroit Lakes, Becker, MN 3
  • Change Date: 13 JAN 2002
  • Note:
    Subj: Re: Minnie Kubbernus/Endres/Schoentiech
    Date: 6/8/01 3:35:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    From: BaetzB
    To: GKobernus

    Dear George,
    I have had loads of company and now trying to play catch-up. I didn'twant to reply until I co uld actually think straight while trying toanswer your questions.
    Gottfried Schoenteich was the first Schoenteich to show up in DetroitLakes. I sent for his na turalization papers and he immigrated to the USand landed at Buffalo March 1876. Gottfried wa s naturalized in BeckerCounty MN. April 1877. I don't have him in my file because I don't kno whow he may be related. However, I'm sure that he must connect because ithas been said that i n 1882 Bertha Schoenteich, my Great Grandmother,traveled alone to the US. I'm positive she ca me to Detroit Lakes becauseshe had family there and that must have been Gottfried. Gottfrie d died in1931 and was living in Audubon, MN. at the time of his death and wasburied in Detroi t Lakes.
    The Gerswalde is now the Jerzwald you mentioned. However, I suppose it ispossible that Berth a and Hermann could have come from the Gerswalde inBrandenburg. I remember my Grandmother say ing both Mecklenberg as well asPrussia. Recently I have been communicating with a man named A lfredSchoenteich in Germany via email. He was born in 1944 in Gerswalde(Jerzwald). We are try ing to see if we are related. He has an elderlyAunt who remembers her family receiving letter s from Detroit Lakes. Sothis is pretty convincing. However, I want to check all possibilities until I'm sure I have all of the correct information.
    My question for you is: Where did you get the spelling "Shonteke"? As faras I know Minnie an d Hermann never Maybe Seattle. Hermann would havebeen an Uncle to my maternal Grandmothe r and was living in Seattle withher husband at the time I was born in 1944. So who really kno ws?
    Hermann Schoentiech was born Dec.1867 in Gerswalde. I think I told you hewas in the German Ar my and deserted because of mistreatment and that wasmost likely why the spelling of his surna me was changed. Hermannimmigrated and landed at the port of Detroit, MI April 1892. H e wasnaturalized in Becker County MN. March 1894. I then got more informationfrom an articl e in a book "As The Wheel Turns" about the settlers ofCamrose. The article was written by Her mann and Minnie's grandson. Itmentions that Minnie had come to the US with her parents at th e age of 5.Minnie was a widow last name Endres and had two small children, Alfredand Flora En dres. In the fall of 1900, Hermann and Minnie with theirchildren, Alfred, Flora, Arena, Minni e, and Martha moved to Wetaskiwin,Alberta In 1901 Della was born and they now had a homestea d near Camrose.They proved up on the homestead and went back to the US returning toCanada i n 1914. Perhaps this could be the time they may have been in WA?
    From documents I have from Detroit Lakes I have learned-----April 22,1890 a female child (Flo ra) was born to John Endres age 40 and wifeMinnie age 26. John was a Miller and Minnie a hous ekeeper. John Endres isin the Oakgrove Cemetery. Age at death 43, Born March 30, 1819 and die dApril 20, 1892. The article in the local paper mentions John'sfather-in-law F. Kubbernus. S o that's proof enough for me!
    In a history of Erie Township, MN. It states that a John Fredreick Disseimmigrated from Germa ny to Buffalo in 1847. Twenty-seven years later witha colony of countrymen came west after th e completion of the NorthernPacific Railroad and settled in Detroit Lakes. Mr. Disse is invol ved inmy family history, but that's not the reason I brought this up. Thinkit's likely that G ottfried Schoenteich was part of this group and it mayestablish a migration pattern for thos e who came later. I would like tofind shipping lists for the Great Lakes ports but so far I' m told theydon't exist. What about ships going through Quebec or Montreal and downthe St. Law rence River?
    Several years ago I checked German's to America and came up empty. Atthat time I didn't kno w about the different spellings of Schoenteich,Schoentiech. Or I could have overlooked and en try. After while all thenames blur. I would appreciate your looking. Perhaps you will have be tterluck. In the meantime I have an open mind to all possibilities of wherein Germany the Sch oenteich's came from. I do hope that what I've writtenhelps fill in some of your blank spots.


    Marriage 1 Wilhelmina (Minnie) KUBBERNUSS b: 27 AUG 1863 in ,,Meck-Vpr, Ger.
    • Married: BEF 1893 in Maybe Detroit Lakes, Becker, MN
    1. Has No Children Alfred ENDRES b: ABT 1890 in Detroit Lakes, Becker, MN
    2. Has No Children Flora ENDRES b: 22 APR 1890 in Detroit Lakes, Becker, MN

    1. Title: E-Mail - Bonnie Baetz 8 Jun 2001
      Note: Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR E-Mail - Bonnie Baetz & FTM Tree V8,T3189 6 Jun 2001

      Source Media Type: Book
      Text: Bonnie says John was born Mar 30, 1819, she Maybe means 1849. He would have been 71 at birth of Flora in 1890; not likely.
    2. Title: E-Mail - Bonnie Baetz 8 Jun 2001
      Note: Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR E-Mail - Bonnie Baetz & FTM Tree V8,T3189 6 Jun 2001

      Source Media Type: Book
    3. Title: E-Mail - Bonnie Baetz 8 Jun 2001
      Note: Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR E-Mail - Bonnie Baetz & FTM Tree V8,T3189 6 Jun 2001

      Source Media Type: Book
      Text: Detroit Lakes, MN Cemeteries Oak Grove Cemetery - 139/41/27/NENW
      Published information includes "Over the Rainbow': Oak Grove Cemetery Records, by Jan Lindsley (Frazee, MN: Heart o' Lakes Genealogical Society, 1991). An interment list is available from Heart o' Lak es Genealogy Society.
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