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  • ID: I02603
  • Name: Carl Christian (Cubbernuss) KUBBERNUSS
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 17 MAR 1790 in Kaemmerich, Schorrentin, Meck-Vpr, Ger. 1 2
  • Change Date: 13 JAN 2002
  • Reference Number: 5555
  • Note:
    Subj: Kubbernuss dates
    Date: 8/29/99 2:36:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    From: Saginawsue
    To: GKobernus

    Thanks, George. Attached is some updated information foryouonthosenamesyou sent m e . T h e n ew info and source of citationisin"quotes"

    Mary Susan
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    CARL KUBBERNUSS March 05, 1789Kaemmerich,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger.Census - 1819 Mecklenb u r g , LDS Film0068877, p295, # 81 res 24yrs."Carl Christian Kubbernuss, March 17, 179 0i n KİPmmer ich,Schorrentin,M-Sch, Taufen Register,SchorrentinParishKirchenbuche,M-Sch 1787- 18 4 4,LDS f ilm #69603."

    Dorothea Kubbernuss November 06, 1799Warsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger.Census - 1819 Me c k l en burg, LDS film0068877, p295, # 82, res21yrs.

    Maria Kubbernuss June 08, 1817Kaemmerich,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger.,Census - 1819 Meckle n b u r g, LDSfilm 0068877,p 295, # 83, res 2yrs.

    Anna Margarete Mayer Abt. 1752Maybe Warsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger.The Church o f J e s u s ChristofLatter-daySaints,InternationalGenealogical Index (R) , 1993 0228Edition.

    Anna Elisabeth Schumacher April 03,1791,Warsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger.,The Churc h o f J e s us ChristofLatter-daySaints,InternationalGenealogical Index (R) , 1993 0228Editio n . "A N N AELISABETSCHUMACHER: 3April 1790, Warsow,Schorrentin,Taufen(Baptismal)Register, S c ho r r entinParishKirchenbuche, M-Sch1787-1844,LDS film#69603."

    Anna Elisabeth Christina Schumacher May22,1802,Warsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr, Ger. , T h e C h u rch of JesusChristof Latter-daySaints,InternationalGenealogical Index (R) , 199 3 0 228 E di tion.

    Catharina Dorothea Schumacher May 13, 1798,Warsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger.,The Church o f J e s u s ChristofLatter-daySaints,InternationalGenealogical Index (R) , 1993 0228Edition.

    Christian Erdmann Schumacher February 03,1788Warsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger. The C h u r c h of Jesus ChristofLatter-daySaints,InternationalGenealogical Index (R) , 1993 02 2 8 Ed it ion."ChristianErdmannSchumacher, Taufen (Baptismal)Register,SchorrentinParishKirchen b uc h e,M-Sch 1787-1844, LDS film#69603. (dateverified)."

    Jochim Hinrich Schumacher August 14,1796,Warsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger. , The Ch u r c h o f Jesus ChristofLatter-daySaints,InternationalGenealogical Index (R) , 1993 02 2 8 Edit ion . "JochimHeinrich, Taufen(Baptismal) Register,SchorrentinParishKirchenbuche,M-Sc h 1 7 8 7-18 44,LDS film #69603.(variance inspelling ofname; dateverified."

    Jochim Ludwig Schumacher November 05,1794Warsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger. The Ch u r c h o f Jesus ChristofLatter-daySaints,InternationalGenealogical Index (R) , 1993 02 2 8 E dition .Taufen(Baptismal) Register,Schorrentin ParishKirchenbuche,M-Sch1787-1844,LDS fil m # 6 9 6 03. (dateverified)

    Johann Jochim Schumacher Abt. 1748, OfWarsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger. ,The Chu r c h o f Je sus ChristofLatter-daySaints,InternationalGenealogical Index (R) , 1993 02 28 E dition.

    Johann Ludwig Tobias Schumacher February09,1780,Warsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr, Ger. , T h e C h u rch of JesusChristof Latter-daySaints,InternationalGenealogical Index (R) , 199 3 0 228 E di tion.

    Maria Dorothea Schumacher July 29, 1784,Warsow,Schorrentin,Meck-Vpr,Ger.1; Census , 1 8 1 9 M ecklenburg, LDSfilm0068877, # 51, res 8 yrs.2; TheChurch of Jesus Christ of Latt er - da ySaints,InternationalGenealogicalIndex (R) , 1993 02 28 Edition.

    Dont know if you are interested in these or not, but here they are:

    "Children of Carolina Dorothea Kubbernuss and Jochim Andreas Grambow:

    1) Jochim Christian Grambow b. June 11,1791,Warsow,Schorrentin,M-Sch

    2) Christian Heinrich Grambow b. June 5, 1793, Warsow

    3) Anna Catharina Sophia b. June 4, 1795, Warsow

    4) Jochim Jacob Christian b. March 21, 1798, Warsow

    Source for all: Taufen (Baptismal)Register,SchorrentinParishKirchenbuche,M-Sch 1787 - 1 8 44 , LDS film#69603"

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    Subj: Carl Kubbernuss
    Date: 8/30/99 10:25:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time
    From: Saginawsue
    To: GKobernus

    George,
    Thanks for the scans. I suspect that we are referringtothesameCarlKubbernuss. The pa r e n t s of this CarlChristianKubbernusswereJohannChristian Kubbernuss (Kamerich) and Mar i a So p hiaSeemans.

    I have found frequent mistakes in census records. Itisimpossibletoknowwho answere d t h e q u estions about dob etc. Iwilldouble checkthedatewhen I go back to the FHC tomorrow . W i l l a lsocheckforamarriagerecord. It is certainly possible that I made a mistakeonthey ea r . Iwil l have a copy made and get it to you. If thereisadiscrepencyindates between tw o o r i gina l sources, I leantowardtherecord thatiscloser to the actual event. I also elimin a t e the IG Ias asource assoonas I can verify or discredit the informationusinganorigina l s o urce.Ther e are many, many errors in the IGI. But itisauseful tool.
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    Subj: Johann Christian Kubbernuss
    Date: 8/31/99 7:45:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    From: Saginawsue
    To: GKobernus

    George,
    I checked the Schorrentin Birth Register againandCarlChristianKubbernusswas bor n o n 1 7 M a rch 1790 inKİPmerich.Parents:JohannChristianKubbernuss and Maria Sophia Seemans . Sourc e:Kirchenbuche--Schorrentin1787-1844; Taufe Register; Vol. 1,p.15,item#13. LDS film # 69 603 .

    I also found their marriage record: CarlChristianKubbernussm.DorotheaFriederica Oldenb u r g , 18 February 1817atKİPmerich.Dorothea'sfather wasChristian Oldenburg of KİPmerich. Kir c henbuche--Schorrentin1787-1844;Hieraten Register; Vol. 2, p. 36, item#2.LDSfilm #69603.

    Looks certain that we are talking about the same Carl Kubbernuss.

    Mary Susan
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    Father: JOHANN CHRISTIAN KUBBERNUSS b: ABT 1764 in Maybe Damm (b Teterow), Alt-Kalen, Meck-Vpr, Ger.
    Mother: MARIA (Margaretha?) Sophia SEEMANN b: ABT 1766 in Maybe Kaemmerich, Schorrentin, Meck-Vpr, Ger.

    Marriage 1 Catharina Dorothea Friederike OLDENBURG b: 6 NOV 1799 in Warsow, Schorrentin, Meck-Vpr, Ger.
    • Married: 18 FEB 1817 in Küsserow, Alt-Kalen, Meck-Vpr, Ger. 3
    • Note: 1 REFN 20189
    Children
    1. Has No Children Maria Elisabeth Friederike KUBBERNUSS b: 11 JUL 1817 in Kaemmerich, Schorrentin, Meck-Vpr, Ger.
    2. Has No Children Carl Jacob Christian KUBBERNUSS b: 1 OCT 1819 in Kaemmerich, Schorrentin, Meck-Vpr, Ger.

    Sources:
    1. Title: Church Record - Schorrentin, birth LDS 0069603.
      Note: LDS film #69603.

      Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR Church Record - Schorrentin, Babtism

      NS35933

      ABBR Church Record - Schorrentin, Babtism

      NS34323

      ABBR Church Record - Schorrentin, Babtism

      Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR Church Record - Schorrentin, birth LDS 0069603.

      Source Media Type: Church Record
      Page: Taufe Register; Vol. 1, p. 15, item #13.
      Text: There is a difference between the 1819 census date and that reported in the Kaemmerich church book. The church book data is Maybe more reliable.
      Note: Church Records - Kaemmerich, Schorrentin, Meck-Vpr, 1784-1787 LDS 0069603.
    2. Title: Census - 1819 Mecklenburg Germany
      Note: Source Media Type: Book

      Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR Census - 1819 Mecklenburg Germany

      NS37493

      Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR Census - 1819 Mecklenburg Germany

      NS34213

      ABBR Census - 1819 Mecklenburg Germany

      Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR Census - 1819 Mecklenburg Germany

      Source Media Type: Official Document
      Repository:
      Media: Book
      Page: p 295, # 81
      Text: 0068877, res 24 yrs born 05.03.1789
      This date conflicts with the birth date researched by Mary Susan Schnell in the Kaemmerich church book.
    3. Title: Church Record - Schorrentin, Marriage LDS 0069603.
      Note: Source Media Type: Book

      ABBR Church Record - Schorrentin, Marriage LDS 0069603.

      Source Media Type: Church Record
      Page: p. 36, item #2 or p. 341, # 8 ?
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