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  • ID: I799
  • Name: John Holmes
  • Sex: M
  • Death: AFT 7 OCT 1651
  • Occupation: Messenger of the Plymouth Court FROM 4 DEC 1638
  • Note:
    Old Research Notes:

    John Holmes supposedly came to Plymouth on the "Ann" in 1623 as a political prisoner. He may have been of the 14th generation of Holmeses in Yorkshire, England.

    John m. 1632 Mercy Faunce, according to "The Holmes Family Tree", by C.C. Holmes via "Falmouth, a New England Township in Nova Scotia" by John V. Duncanson. This appears to be wrong. The data used here is from the IGI.

    From Julie Bryn:

    I have some information about an ancestor of mine who lived in Plymouth
    -- his name was John Holmes. We have evidence of his being taxed
    in the years 1633/34, of being made a voter in 1634, and was often
    a messenger to the General Court. He married Sarah Thomas, but we
    don't know when; they had a son, John, born in 1636. The younger
    John later married Patience Faunce, whose father (also John) came
    to Plymouth in 1623, probably aboard the "Anne."

    According to NGSQ June and September, 1986, via Don Weymouth:

    HOLMES, John - John Holmes arrived at Plymouth before 16 October 1632,
    when he bought a house and six acres of land from William Palmer (PCR
    12:18). In 1638 he was appointed Messenger of the Court, and his duties
    included being summons server, jailer, and executioner. His wife was
    probably Sarah Holmes, and he had two sons, John Holmes, who married
    (1)Patience Faunce, daughter of John and Patience (Morton) Faunce and
    (2)Patience Bonham, daughter of George and Sarah (Morton) Bonham; and
    Nathaniel Holmes, who married Mercy Faunce, sister of Patience Faunce.
    Both sons had large families, and thus there are many descendants. The
    first four generations of this family are given by Eugene A. Stratton,
    "The Descendants of Mr. John Holmes, Messenger of the Plymouth Court,"
    in the June and September 1986 issues of NGSQ.

    From Julie Bryn:

    A couple of questions, based on comparing my info and yours: I
    have the younger John Holmes (b. 1636 d. 1697) marrying Patience
    Faunce; you have Patience (Bonham) Willis. I wonder which one is
    right. I also have John's brother Nathaniel (1643-7/25/1729) married
    to Patience's sister, Mercy (b. 1651); the date I have for their
    marriage is 12/29/1667; it is to this couple that I am descended.

    I would certainly like to know more about John & Patience (dates,
    children, etc.), if & when you have the time. What was your wife's
    maiden name? -- this must make us cousins, several times removed!

    Also, do you have any info on a William Holmes, who apparently was
    aboard the "Hercules" in 1634. I have no idea if he fits into this
    Holmes family and, if so, how.

    Also from Don Weymouth:

    Several references to John Holmes in "Plymouth Colony - Its History &
    People" by Eugene Aubrey Stratton, published 1986 by Ancestry
    Publishing, P.O. Box 476, Salt Lake City, UT 84110

    p. 181 William Spooner of Colchester, co. Essex, by contract of 27 March
    1637, apprenticed himself to John Holmes, gentleman, of Plymouth for six
    years, and later in 1637 Holmes, with the consent and liking of Spooner,
    assigned Spooner's contract to John Coombs of Plymouth....There are
    hints that Holmes might have come from Colchester, too...

    p. 184 On 8 February 1638/9 the court noted that (Stephen) Hopkins had
    concluded an agreement with Mr. John Holmes for 3 pounds and other
    considerations to discharge Hopkins and the colony of responsibility for
    the support of Dorothy Temple and her child, and the said Dorothy was to
    serve the remainder of her time with Holmes. - (This refers to Dorothy
    being unwed and pregnant having named the recently executed Arthur Peach
    as the father - Dorothy had been a servant of Hopkins.)

    Also see "The Descendants of Mr. John Holmes, Messenger of the Plymouth
    Court", NGSQ (June and September, 1986.)

    Note also that Thomas Graunger, servant to Love Brewster, was hanged
    until dead by executioner Mr. John Holmes, the Messenger of the court. -
    spelling also was Granger - he was indicted for buggery (hope that means
    burglary) of a mare, cow, two goats, sheep, two calves, and a turkey.

    Patience Bonham m1. Richard Willis. she m2. John Holmes, son of the
    Messenger John Holmes - hey this is great, one of their daughters
    married Robert Barrow, an ancestor of my wife, I've been looked for this
    record. - Sorry for the editorial, I get carried away a lot. Record is
    on p. 247 of the book refered to above.

    John Holmes was on the 1643 Able to Bear Arms List for Plymouth

    From Eugene A. Stratton, "The Descendants of Mr. John Holmes, Messenger of the
    Plymouth Court", NGSQ (June and September, 1986.):

    Mr. John Holmes died sometime after 7 Oct 1651

    Mr. John Holmes complaint against Joseph Warren on 7 Oct 1651 is the last
    record that can certainly be identified with John Holmes, the messanger.
  • Date: 2 Mar 2003
  • Note: The Falmouth book listed John Holmes m. Mercy Faunce,1632, Plymouth.
  • Date: 18 Feb 2001
  • Change Date: 2 Mar 2003 at 21:48:20



    Marriage 1 Sarah
    • Married: 1635 in Plymouth, PLY
    Children
    1. Has No Children John Holmes b: ABT 1636
    2. Has Children Nathaniel Holmes b: ABT 1643
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